0.000000 3.040000 This is "Trustworthy."
3.040000 6.140000 Hi, I'm Sarah, and I'm Mary Beth.
6.140000 9.240000 How do we build a trustworthy life
9.240000 11.980000 through the help of a trustworthy God?
11.980000 17.180000 Well, hello there, Mary Beth.
17.180000 19.720000 Hello, Sarah.
19.720000 23.360000 It is a new season.
23.360000 24.360000 Season four.
24.360000 26.260000 That's right. You believe it?
26.260000 28.260000 I cannot believe it.
28.260000 29.920000 But yet, here we are.
29.920000 34.480000 We're sitting here in our "Trustworthy" podcast studio,
34.480000 36.920000 which has gone through a few changes.
36.920000 38.520000 It's gotten a little glow up, Sarah.
38.520000 40.560000 You've done some nice work in here.
40.560000 42.320000 Thank you. Thank you very much.
42.320000 45.960000 One of the things that occurred in the podcast studio
45.960000 49.360000 that I'm most excited about is that
49.360000 52.960000 my beloved leather chair of 25 years
52.960000 57.600000 has found a new home in the corner of the studio.
57.600000 62.440000 It is now available for me to take brain breaks
62.440000 65.280000 or coffee breaks or naps.
65.280000 66.880000 Naps, yeah.
66.880000 70.880000 Musings. Musings, yes, yes, yes.
70.880000 72.760000 Well, it's good to be back.
72.760000 77.120000 It's good to be back in the swing of all things autumn.
77.120000 82.260000 We're excited about what we're going to talk about this season.
82.260000 83.760000 I'm excited for many reasons.
83.760000 87.360000 One of which is because Sarah already thought of it all.
87.360000 91.240000 So, no pressure.
91.240000 95.840000 Well, I would just say this that we are blessed to be inspired
95.840000 100.640000 by God and His Word and His work through the Holy Spirit.
100.640000 105.120000 This season, we are going to be talking about
105.120000 107.600000 the building blocks of discipleship.
107.600000 111.840000 That's right. You may recall we did one episode on this last year
111.840000 114.120000 if you want to go back and check it out, listeners.
114.120000 118.400000 It's our March 17th episode, rightly called
118.400000 120.480000 Building Blocks of Discipleship.
120.480000 122.000000 There's so much in there.
122.000000 122.920000 We thought, you know what?
122.920000 124.840000 We could talk a lot about each one of these.
124.840000 126.480000 And that's exactly what we're going to do.
126.480000 128.240000 Yes, we are.
128.240000 134.880000 So today, we are talking about Jesus Christ as the rock
134.880000 140.000000 on which we build our foundation in our lives.
140.000000 148.360000 There are a lot of references to God and Jesus being our rock.
148.360000 152.760000 Many of you listening can probably start thinking of scriptures.
152.760000 156.800000 Mary Beth and I thought of a hymn right away.
156.800000 162.280000 On Christ, the solid rock, we stand.
162.280000 164.120000 Makes me think of my dad.
164.120000 171.840000 He often says this to my family, folks, anyone who is saying goodbye,
171.840000 175.280000 going into a situation, hold to the rock is something
175.280000 177.880000 that he has told us over and over again in our lives.
177.880000 181.440000 He actually made us these little booklets
181.440000 183.920000 at various times in our life when I graduated from college,
183.920000 186.720000 when I got married, called Hold to the Rock
186.720000 190.600000 and it's full of scripture and lessons and things like that.
190.600000 196.320000 So shout out, Daddy, I love that.
196.320000 199.640000 I cannot even think about a foundation
199.640000 204.560000 or a rock without thinking about my father, who is a stone
204.560000 208.840000 mason and actually just recently retired from his career
208.840000 211.240000 as a masonry professor.
211.240000 216.120000 And so my first thought was to get some information from him.
216.120000 221.960000 And boy, did he give me a lot to think about?
221.960000 224.920000 We may hear some more from him later on,
224.920000 228.520000 but I got an exclusive interview with my dad, Mary Beth.
228.520000 230.840000 What a good get for you and your research.
230.840000 231.680000 I know.
231.680000 235.520000 Being that he is actually an expert, it was nice.
235.520000 238.120000 And he had the time.
238.120000 241.080000 The first thing he said to me was, well,
241.080000 243.200000 there's soil investigation.
243.200000 246.280000 I'm like, OK, and he went on to explain.
246.280000 248.080000 When you choose your building site,
248.080000 251.600000 you have to investigate the soil.
251.600000 253.880000 Hence building your house on the rock
253.880000 255.920000 as opposed to the sand.
255.920000 256.440000 Yeah.
256.440000 258.240000 So did you learn that song as a kid?
258.240000 260.800000 The wise man built his house on the rock.
260.800000 262.240000 Yeah, I love that song.
262.240000 266.280000 And my favorite part was doing the splat at the end.
266.280000 268.520000 Which, hey, Bible lessons.
268.520000 271.680000 If you can get the kids to learn Bible lessons, right?
271.680000 276.040000 But is the ground, is the soil stable?
276.040000 277.600000 Is it trustworthy?
277.600000 278.920000 Yeah.
278.920000 282.360000 Has there been a good performance record?
282.360000 284.080000 There have been landslides here in the past.
284.080000 285.400000 Are there like sinkholes?
285.400000 286.160000 Are there--
286.160000 287.520000 Is there a airplane?
287.520000 288.800000 Right, exactly.
288.800000 290.080000 Yep, that kind of thing.
290.080000 292.680000 Yeah, so soil investigation.
292.680000 297.120000 That is a really clear reference in my mind,
297.120000 300.240000 right to the sermon on the Mount, which we were just talking about.
300.240000 301.240000 Yeah.
301.240000 304.120000 Here's another interesting he said to me about foundations.
304.120000 307.800000 As a foundation spreads the weight of the building.
307.800000 310.560000 The foundation receives the weight of the structure
310.560000 313.320000 that is placed upon it.
313.320000 315.960000 And it gets it supports the structure,
315.960000 322.480000 but it also transfers the weight to the soil that is built on.
322.480000 329.400000 So in my mind, I can't think of a better metaphor
329.400000 331.520000 for the Christian life.
331.520000 333.680000 If we're going to build our discipleship blocks
333.680000 338.760000 into a foundation, it has got to be built on a rock.
338.760000 340.840000 And that is Jesus.
340.840000 342.400000 I like that.
342.400000 346.320000 That weight that the foundation is spreading and taking
346.320000 352.720000 and spreading into the soil can come from a couple of different things.
352.720000 356.840000 In structural engineering, there's dead weight and live weight.
356.840000 359.720000 Dead weight is the weight of the structure.
359.720000 364.800000 So your walls, your roof, the actual building materials
364.800000 366.920000 that create the structure that's considered dead weight,
366.920000 370.200000 which makes sense because once it's built, it's just there, right?
370.200000 371.400000 It doesn't move.
371.400000 374.880000 But then there's, yeah, well, right.
374.880000 378.080000 It depends on what you're building your foundation on, right?
378.080000 381.400000 But there's also live weight.
381.400000 384.920000 And live weight is the activity that goes on in a building.
384.920000 388.600000 So the examples he gave were, ah, maybe you're moving a refrigerator
388.600000 392.680000 across the floor, or you have a big party in living room.
392.680000 397.240000 Or if you're storing potatoes in your warehouse, you know, those are heavy.
397.240000 404.240000 That warehouse needs to be able to take the weight of not only the warehouse itself,
404.240000 406.080000 but what's inside it?
406.080000 410.800000 How does that tie into a life of discipleship?
410.800000 412.560000 What's the dead weight versus the life weight?
412.560000 413.520000 Right, right.
413.520000 414.520000 There's a great question.
414.520000 418.840000 So the dead weight would be the structure that we're building,
418.840000 420.200000 the life that we're building.
420.200000 422.440000 So I'm a mom, right?
422.440000 425.360000 I'm a wife, you know, that is my family structure.
425.360000 427.920000 That's the life I have this podcast.
427.920000 431.320000 You know, I am a follower of Christ.
431.320000 433.240000 I do these things.
433.240000 437.320000 And so the life that I'm building, the structure that I'm building,
437.320000 440.520000 is resting on that foundation.
440.520000 447.240000 But within those roles, within that structure in my house, so to speak,
447.240000 448.680000 the things happen.
448.680000 454.160000 And boy, we see a lot of live weight, a lot of action in the Christian life.
454.160000 460.680000 Illness can come in, trials, financial troubles, relationship issues.
460.680000 465.720000 Just the day-to-day grind, Mary Beth, you know?
465.720000 469.800000 And I think of what you were saying earlier about, you know, parties,
469.800000 473.200000 other people coming in, things you're storing,
473.200000 479.240000 all those are analogies for, like my 20 bins of Christmas decorations.
479.240000 484.960000 But I think what are things that we're storing in our lives that are adding weight?
484.960000 486.440000 Right? Are they good or they bad?
486.440000 488.800000 You know, there's so much we go into there.
488.800000 492.240000 But as you're talking through all these things, it's, I'm trying to think about,
492.240000 498.320000 how does Christ hold up and support those things?
498.320000 503.960000 You know, we think of Matthew 16 where Jesus is talking to Simon Peter.
503.960000 507.800000 Simon Peter says, you are the Christ, the Son of the living God.
507.800000 511.600000 Jesus replied, blessed are you, Simon of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man,
511.600000 512.960000 but by my father in heaven.
512.960000 515.040000 And I tell you that you are Peter.
515.040000 520.040000 And on this rock, I will build my church and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
520.040000 527.720000 And so there is this sharing of glory
527.720000 532.720000 that we get to experience as brothers and sisters, co-hairs of Christ.
532.720000 539.800000 He is the rock, fully God, fully man, because he came and sacrificed himself of me this way.
539.800000 543.360000 He, you know, he's a trustworthy foundation.
543.360000 549.400000 And he also tells Peter, you know, I'm going to build my church on this rock.
549.400000 553.120000 And so it's, we rely solely on him.
553.120000 559.440000 And also we are part of his building of what's going on in his church.
559.440000 561.000000 Yeah.
561.000000 566.040000 That can be a little, a little hard to grasp sometimes.
566.040000 570.560000 And I think we need to be cautious about how he is metaphors in this.
570.560000 580.120000 But I wonder if Peter was recalling that conversation when he wrote these words in 1 Peter 2, 4 through
580.120000 582.120000 7.
582.120000 587.840000 As you come to him, the living stone rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him,
587.840000 593.960000 you also, like living stones are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood,
593.960000 597.840000 offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
597.840000 604.520000 For in scripture it says, see, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone,
604.520000 608.040000 and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.
608.040000 612.840000 Not to you who believe this stone is precious, but to those who do not believe the stone
612.840000 618.680000 that the builder's rejected has become the cornerstone.
618.680000 622.680000 We are living stones.
622.680000 628.560000 And again, this is a separate, this is kind of a separate metaphor than the foundation
628.560000 630.560000 that we're building, but it all ties together.
630.560000 631.560000 I know.
631.560000 632.560000 All made out of rock.
632.560000 633.560000 All made out of rock.
633.560000 643.960000 But we are being built into the church and it does not escape me that this is a beautiful
643.960000 651.800000 way to tie in our season on community, which was last season, season three into this building
651.800000 660.600000 blocks of discipleship season four, because when we are being built into a community, the
660.600000 667.800000 stone mason, our Heavenly Father needs to, needs to make some modifications to us to get
667.800000 669.320000 us to fit into the wall.
669.320000 675.520000 I mean, one thing I did learn from my dad is that the wall has to be plumb in level, but
675.520000 679.880000 the stones do not.
679.880000 683.400000 And whose job is it to make this the walls level?
683.400000 684.400000 The Lord.
684.400000 685.400000 That's right.
685.400000 686.400000 Yeah.
686.400000 689.880000 So I just want to make sure I'm tracking on our, our word pictures here.
689.880000 690.880000 Yeah.
690.880000 693.600000 So we've got our soil testing.
693.600000 694.600000 Yep.
694.600000 703.160000 We're finding Christ is the solid bed rock foundation on which to build.
703.160000 707.000000 Then God starts building his church, which would be us.
707.000000 708.000000 Right.
708.000000 709.000000 So we are the stones in the wall.
709.000000 710.000000 Am I tracking?
710.000000 711.000000 Right.
711.000000 712.000000 Yep.
712.000000 713.000000 So far.
713.000000 714.000000 Okay.
714.000000 717.800000 And you're saying, as your dad was teaching you that not every rock is going to be a perfect
717.800000 719.400000 little brick shape.
719.400000 720.400000 Right.
720.400000 721.400000 Exactly.
721.400000 725.540000 And it's fun to live in Pennsylvania where we get to see these houses that are built out
725.540000 730.040000 of a lot of this stone and kind of see some of that and see these really old,
730.040000 731.040000 100 years old.
731.040000 732.040000 Yeah.
732.040000 733.040000 Yeah.
733.040000 739.480000 And I thought it was interesting that my dad was explaining to me, you can't just stack
739.480000 741.280000 rocks on top of each other.
741.280000 747.920000 You have to have two on one or one on two, it's the bond.
747.920000 751.240000 It's called, it's called a running bond.
751.240000 756.520000 And it has to be built that way because gravity is your friend when you build a stone wall,
756.520000 758.520000 when you build a stone structure.
758.520000 765.800000 And so each rock, each stone carries the weight of the one above it, but also transfers
765.800000 769.480000 its own weight to what's below it.
769.480000 777.440000 And the heavier the structure, the more weight that gets added, the roof, a second story,
777.440000 781.080000 whatever, the stronger the wall is.
781.080000 787.080000 Which I mean, I think that there's some verses about perseverance in trials and tribulations.
787.080000 788.080000 Yeah.
788.080000 794.440000 We don't always want to hear that, but we're being refined and that weight does make
794.440000 795.440000 us stronger.
795.440000 801.960000 But again, going back to that rock that it's built on, right?
801.960000 810.720000 So what else can we learn about Christ and how he acts as our foundation for these building
810.720000 811.720000 blocks?
811.720000 817.400000 Well, Christ was there in the beginning, the world was created through him.
817.400000 824.920000 And we often hear of and read about God being the rock of ages, the solid rock.
824.920000 833.040000 The thing that I find interesting and the reason why it makes so much sense to me that Christ
833.040000 842.880000 is the rock on which we build our lives is that because Christ was God in human form, he
842.880000 852.960000 took this Old Testament concept, this Alpha Omega infinite eternal out of time.
852.960000 860.600000 So to speak God and became flesh, I mean the mystery of the Trinity, right?
860.600000 868.680000 God the three, the three and one, but all of this, everything that we knew of God and when
868.680000 873.800000 I say we, I mean collectively, historically, like through the ages, through the Old Testament
873.800000 881.280000 times, became flesh and that, I don't know if we often, yeah, we think of the cute little
881.280000 887.200000 baby in the manger, Mary Beth, but do we often really ponder?
887.200000 893.280000 This is the eternal out of time, this God that makes promises and keeps them.
893.280000 897.400000 I mean, all of his promises are yes and a man in Jesus.
897.400000 904.560000 But God's faithfulness, the world that was created, everything, the entire ball of wax,
904.560000 913.800000 so to speak, comes together in the person of Jesus Christ who, not considering that equality
913.800000 916.080000 with God is something to be grasped, humbled himself.
916.080000 923.000000 I mean, he walked this earth, Mary Beth, he got hungry, he got sick, he got tired, his heart
923.000000 924.000000 was broken.
924.000000 934.240000 I mean, he had the gamut of human experience, why wouldn't you build your entire life
934.240000 935.800000 on that?
935.800000 944.240000 You're right, it's hard sometimes to think about the fullness of God and the fullness of man
944.240000 950.400000 and dwelling in one person, but that's just what Colossians 29 teaches us for in him.
950.400000 956.840000 The whole fullness of deity dwells bodily and you have been filled in him who is the head
956.840000 960.960000 of all rule and authority.
960.960000 966.440000 I mean, it's only fitting that he is the rock on which we build our foundation and by
966.440000 973.160000 the way, not only the rock and the foundation of our faith, but the cornerstone and by the
973.160000 980.280000 way, the author and finisher of the same faith, I mean, it's, it's truly, I'm going to have
980.280000 982.680000 to go sit in that chair and ponder that for a while.
982.680000 988.320000 Let me know if you were able to fully grasp the Trinity by the end of that pondering.
988.320000 993.120000 That's a hard one, but it doesn't mean it's not true, right?
993.120000 995.800000 Which is what faith is, yeah.
995.800000 1004.240000 And that foundation, that truth of who Christ is, his role in the Trinity, his fully God,
1004.240000 1013.680000 fully man, existence, all of that, that basis of our faith is where we have to start to
1013.680000 1014.680000 build.
1014.680000 1016.080000 We can't build without that.
1016.080000 1017.080000 Correct.
1017.080000 1018.080000 The house will crumble.
1018.080000 1019.080000 Yeah.
1019.080000 1023.720000 I mean, yeah, we are happy for anyone to listen to our podcast.
1023.720000 1028.000000 We are happy for anyone to understand these building blocks of discipleship.
1028.000000 1029.000000 Feel free.
1029.000000 1041.120000 But if you have not started with accepting Christ as the divine son of God who was born,
1041.120000 1046.120000 lived, had a ministry, performed miracles, crucified.
1046.120000 1047.120000 He died.
1047.120000 1053.380000 He was buried, descended into hell, and then rose again on the third day.
1053.380000 1064.060000 I mean, you can't, I mean, we love to have you listen, but then it just becomes self-help.
1064.060000 1065.060000 Right.
1065.060000 1071.020000 And that's not what we believe true living is self-help.
1071.020000 1072.860000 It's like an oxymoron.
1072.860000 1073.860000 Self-help?
1073.860000 1074.860000 Yeah.
1074.860000 1075.860000 Yeah.
1075.860000 1076.860000 Oh, okay.
1076.860000 1077.860000 Anyway.
1077.860000 1083.740000 I don't know if we accept not just this premise that Jesus is who he says he is, but if we
1083.740000 1093.700000 accept him, I was listening to a podcast of the day that there are many distinctives about
1093.700000 1095.500000 Christianity and the faith that we hold.
1095.500000 1102.620000 One of them is that we are the only religion whose God is still actively working for us
1102.620000 1104.620000 or our good.
1104.620000 1108.940000 It's not, most religions, you have to work, you have to work for God.
1108.940000 1111.580000 You have to work for this thing and earn this thing.
1111.580000 1117.580000 We are the only faith where the one true God is actually working on our behalf.
1117.580000 1125.500000 And it's not just accepting that what he says is true, it's accepting him and entering into
1125.500000 1128.180000 that relationship and that work.
1128.180000 1133.680000 So once we accept that, then that's how we can begin this road to sanctification, to
1133.680000 1136.320000 becoming a disciple.
1136.320000 1139.640000 You've mentioned Peter a lot already this episode.
1139.640000 1141.760000 He understood this really well.
1141.760000 1147.160000 You know, Peter was described as we mentioned kind of at the top as the rock on which Christ
1147.160000 1149.240000 would build his church.
1149.240000 1156.560000 If you know much about Peter, he wasn't the best choice by human standards.
1156.560000 1161.200000 And that is how God works.
1161.200000 1162.200000 He uses all of us.
1162.200000 1168.440000 He's saying, "We may not fit the perfect mold of a stone you would want in a wall."
1168.440000 1169.440000 Right.
1169.440000 1173.080000 Peter betrayed Christ.
1173.080000 1174.240000 He denied.
1174.240000 1176.560000 I mean, you could do it as betrayed, right?
1176.560000 1179.240000 But like, Peter denied him.
1179.240000 1184.160000 Like in Ears, Christ was there because you remember he looks at him.
1184.160000 1189.520000 And that hurt, that betrayal.
1189.520000 1193.500000 I think we all can recall a time.
1193.500000 1199.240000 Maybe it's not even in the very distant past when we've been betrayed.
1199.240000 1209.880000 But Jesus chose the betrayer to build his church on.
1209.880000 1212.920000 I guess you could say that Jesus forgave him.
1212.920000 1213.920000 Yeah.
1213.920000 1221.640000 And didn't stop working on him.
1221.640000 1225.000000 Let's say, "Okay, Sarah, we're with you."
1225.000000 1228.440000 We believe Jesus is who he says he was, "Fully God, fully man."
1228.440000 1233.960000 We're saying, "Okay, I'm putting my faith in him."
1233.960000 1237.200000 How then do we build this life upon him?
1237.200000 1241.600000 How do we make him our foundation or how do we let him be it?
1241.600000 1244.440000 I don't know if we can make it.
1244.440000 1245.440000 I think you're right.
1245.440000 1249.580000 I think that the word choice really matters there.
1249.580000 1252.400000 But risk of mixing metaphors.
1252.400000 1256.120000 I'm actually going to take us back to the beginning briefly, Mary Beth.
1256.120000 1263.680000 When we talked about soil investigation, we talked about how do we know that Christ is
1263.680000 1266.440000 worth building our lives on?
1266.440000 1269.640000 When you investigate soil, you can do lots of things.
1269.640000 1274.880000 Make core samples to find different things, but they now have like these x-ray things.
1274.880000 1284.680000 I'm not a structural engineer, but there's evidence you can tell when you look at something.
1284.680000 1289.760000 If you are investigating religions, for example, because you just talked about the fact that
1289.760000 1296.640000 ours is the only one that God works for us, that'd be a great indicator.
1296.640000 1297.640000 What do I have to do?
1297.640000 1300.080000 Do I have to work really hard to earn this?
1300.080000 1306.000000 Do I want to build my life on something that all depends on me?
1306.000000 1310.400000 Am I the highest power in my life?
1310.400000 1316.120000 Am I the one that has to be in control of everything?
1316.120000 1322.440000 As our listeners have known, we've discussed in the past, I mean, myself and us, we're not
1322.440000 1325.080000 really the most reliable.
1325.080000 1330.900000 We need something outside of ourselves to build our lives on, to rely on.
1330.900000 1339.600000 I think in that soil investigation, it's important to go back to community of believers.
1339.600000 1346.320000 Do you see evidence of what the rock means in other people's lives?
1346.320000 1352.920000 Not only am I going to build my life on the rock, but I'm going to build it in a good neighborhood.
1352.920000 1358.380000 I'm going to start my foundation work, along with other people that are building on that
1358.380000 1360.720000 same rock.
1360.720000 1364.240000 That soil investigation extends to those other types of choices.
1364.240000 1368.480000 That's kind of what we can start to look at.
1368.480000 1373.840000 One of the other things that, in my mind, kind of ties into this, when I was talking to
1373.840000 1380.920000 my dad, he talked about outside forces that can come in.
1380.920000 1387.200000 One of those things is a force that can come directly at a wall that could smash it or
1387.200000 1389.040000 push it in, that sort of thing.
1389.040000 1392.440000 Things like maybe hurricane force winds or something like that.
1392.440000 1399.440000 You counteract that by having structural integrity with building or running bond, so there's
1399.440000 1401.240000 ways to counteract that force.
1401.240000 1408.440000 There's also force that comes through perhaps seismic activity, earthquakes and so forth,
1408.440000 1417.240000 that can cause a structure to shear, to move sideways off of its foundation.
1417.240000 1419.560000 That's the other caution here, too.
1419.560000 1428.560000 We can go ahead and build our foundation, our building blocks right on the rock, but sometimes
1428.560000 1433.560000 we can go on living our life as if we're not really on that foundation.
1433.560000 1435.080000 There can be a shift.
1435.080000 1436.080000 There can be a shift.
1436.080000 1444.680000 Yeah, we can move our building off of that firm foundation that's built on the solid rock.
1444.680000 1451.120000 That shear shifting of that building, that movement of that building off the foundation,
1451.120000 1459.200000 there's actually some structural help to tie our building to the foundation, so that
1459.200000 1466.200000 that seismic activity doesn't cause our building to shift.
1466.200000 1467.200000 You use anchors.
1467.200000 1468.740000 I was going to say is it anchoring?
1468.740000 1469.740000 It is.
1469.740000 1470.740000 It's anchoring.
1470.740000 1475.840000 So, depending on whether you're building a wood structure or a masonry structure, my dad
1475.840000 1481.640000 told me you use different types of anchors, but those anchors tie into the foundation,
1481.640000 1488.480000 which is heavier than the structure and more robust, and they extend all the way up
1488.480000 1493.600000 through the walls and attach to the roof structure.
1493.600000 1500.280000 So, you're literally tying the roof, which is the heaviest thing and helps make the walls
1500.280000 1505.240000 stronger, and you're tying that all the way down to the foundation.
1505.240000 1516.280000 I was thinking as you were describing that, sometimes there are these sudden, dramatic shifts
1516.280000 1517.280000 in foundation.
1517.280000 1523.200000 There's stories right now from out on the west coast where massive storms have just caused
1523.200000 1529.360000 huge erosion, and everything under the houses is swept out to sea, and you see these houses
1529.360000 1530.600000 falling off of cliffs almost.
1530.600000 1537.720000 So, there can be those dramatic moments like that, or an earthquake or something like that.
1537.720000 1542.440000 I think of my own house, and there's also things that happen slowly.
1542.440000 1547.960000 It's the settling, sometimes as a settle, if they weren't built correctly, things will
1547.960000 1548.960000 shift.
1548.960000 1552.380000 If there's an addition onto your house and it wasn't done correctly, the seams can start
1552.380000 1553.380000 to split.
1553.380000 1561.580000 You start to see cracks in the walls, so I think that that anchoring in our lives is so important
1561.580000 1565.360000 because sometimes we don't feel the shift happening.
1565.360000 1570.160000 It's happening so gradually and slowly that we're not even aware of it, but if we have
1570.160000 1575.100000 that anchoring, that's what's going to hold us up, and when we start to see the cracks,
1575.100000 1582.660000 we think, oh, is that structural or is it something cosmetic that we can just repair instead
1582.660000 1590.760000 of there being this dramatic, oh, man, my living room just fell off my house.
1590.760000 1597.440000 When we were house shopping, we looked at a house and it had a walk out basement, it was
1597.440000 1605.200000 built into a hill, and so like the back of the house was exposed, and the wall was concave.
1605.200000 1614.360000 Literally, we were assured that the engineers had said that it was, I don't care what you
1614.360000 1615.360000 tell me.
1615.360000 1624.520000 We're just not, sorry, we're just not going to buy this house, but you can actually repair
1624.520000 1634.800000 that. It does take time and money, but you can repair that, and back to the amazing stories
1634.800000 1642.360000 that my dad was telling me, when you have a wall, a foundation wall that's being built,
1642.360000 1648.760000 and sometimes you need to go back in and add a new stone, maybe there needs to be some
1648.760000 1656.580000 repair, short it up, and sometimes the existing stones that have already been in the wall
1656.580000 1666.560000 for a really long time need a little modification to be able to have this new structural stone
1666.560000 1668.560000 tied in.
1668.560000 1674.680000 And I thought, gosh, isn't that a metaphor?
1674.680000 1680.720000 Maybe that patient's foundational stone needs to be chipped away at a little bit, you know,
1680.720000 1685.880000 maybe the master stone mason needs to come in and adjust some things in there to be able
1685.880000 1688.760000 to fit this new piece in.
1688.760000 1691.840000 So listeners, there's hope.
1691.840000 1702.280000 We have a good God and a master craftsman, master mason, who is building us, building our lives.
1702.280000 1707.240000 So repairs can be made, but better to not have to go back in, you know.
1707.240000 1715.520000 Well, and I'm looking forward to these further discussions this season that all of this is built
1715.520000 1724.960000 on that firm foundation of Jesus, and that is what frees us to move forward into these
1724.960000 1731.600000 future building blocks, that it's not that we are trying to do this all ourselves.
1731.600000 1734.520000 God is the one building.
1734.520000 1746.520000 We are an active participant in it, but we can rest, we can anchor, we can sit on the knowledge
1746.520000 1748.520000 that Christ is always there.
1748.520000 1751.000000 We don't have to fear all these external forces.
1751.000000 1752.000000 No, we don't.
1752.000000 1760.280000 And I believe that it is so important that we read scripture.
1760.280000 1762.520000 We just take God's word.
1762.520000 1764.280000 God is a promise keeper.
1764.280000 1765.280000 Think about Genesis.
1765.280000 1770.840000 In fact, Genesis 8.22, as long as the earth indoors, sea, time and harvest, cold and heat,
1770.840000 1773.200000 summer and winter, day and night will never cease.
1773.200000 1780.000000 I mean, that is a bedrock promise that we can rest in, and those things just bear out.
1780.000000 1784.680000 We have to get to know the person of Jesus Christ, which is reading the Bible.
1784.680000 1792.200000 I mean, there are different components to the Christian life, but how are we going to
1792.200000 1798.200000 know someone if we don't read what he said to us?
1798.200000 1806.980000 And to take heed to what he said, this parable from Matthew 7, everyone then who hears the
1806.980000 1811.060000 words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house in the rock.
1811.060000 1815.660000 The rain fell, the floods came, the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall
1815.660000 1818.580000 because it had been founded on the rock.
1818.580000 1822.780000 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man
1822.780000 1824.740000 who built his house on the sand.
1824.740000 1829.660000 The rain fell, the floods came, the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell.
1829.660000 1833.100000 And great was the fall of it.
1833.100000 1843.020000 Well, when we believe in Jesus as Savior and Lord, like you said, we don't have to fear.
1843.020000 1845.860000 We can really move forward into our life.
1845.860000 1851.980000 I mean, listen, Jesus said in this world, you will have trouble, right?
1851.980000 1855.860000 We know we're going to have trial and tribulation, but it's easier.
1855.860000 1857.900000 It's easier to make decisions.
1857.900000 1862.860000 It's easier to know what that next right step is in your life when you're built on that
1862.860000 1865.860000 rock.
1865.860000 1871.980000 When it's easier in the sense that it doesn't all depend on us.
1871.980000 1874.580000 I think that's exactly what I was trying to say.
1874.580000 1875.580000 Thank you, Mary Beth.
1875.580000 1876.580000 You're welcome.
1876.580000 1878.740000 Doesn't mean life will be easy.
1878.740000 1887.240000 It means the weight of the decision making and the carrying of all the things in our
1887.240000 1893.080000 life is easier because he's actually the one carrying it.
1893.080000 1894.080000 Yep.
1894.080000 1898.480000 Just going back to the very first, that live weight that's going on in our structures,
1898.480000 1901.680000 transferred to the foundation, which is transferred to the bedrock.
1901.680000 1902.680000 Yeah.
1902.680000 1903.680000 Wow.
1903.680000 1910.760000 No wonder Jesus used that story in the sermon on the Mount.
1910.760000 1915.640000 Tradition says carpenter, but there are a lot of people think that Jesus actually learned
1915.640000 1920.560000 masonry from his father Joseph, so it's just interesting.
1920.560000 1928.440000 It certainly understood how to build a home or a structure, whether it be masonry or
1928.440000 1929.440000 wood.
1929.440000 1931.680000 It certainly understood that.
1931.680000 1935.080000 Sarah, this reminds me of a hymn.
1935.080000 1936.080000 Oh, yes.
1936.080000 1941.560000 I think we discussed that or mentioned that at the beginning of the beginning of the episode.
1941.560000 1942.560000 What's a...
1942.560000 1943.560000 Let's sing that.
1943.560000 1944.560000 No.
1944.560000 1945.560000 No.
1945.560000 1947.600000 Well, we could talk about it.
1947.600000 1948.600000 Yeah.
1948.600000 1954.240000 It's called The Solid Rock, written in 1834 by Edward Moat.
1954.240000 1957.800000 Not spelled the same as a moat you would build around a stone structure, but anyway,
1957.800000 1958.800000 I digress.
1958.800000 1959.800000 Yeah.
1959.800000 1960.800000 Yeah.
1960.800000 1961.800000 Very familiar words to a lot of us.
1961.800000 1965.120000 My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus' blood and righteousness.
1965.120000 1969.720000 I dare not trust the sweetest frame, but holy lean on Jesus' name.
1969.720000 1977.840000 When Christ the solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand, all other ground
1977.840000 1980.040000 is sinking sand.
1980.040000 1985.840000 When darkness veils his lovely face, I rest on his unchanging grace in every high and
1985.840000 1990.840000 stormy gale, my anchor holds within the veil.
1990.840000 1999.680000 On Christ the solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand, all other ground
1999.680000 2001.960000 is sinking sand.
2001.960000 2007.760000 His oath, his covenant, his blood support me in the welding flood, when all around my soul
2007.760000 2012.240000 gives way, he then is all my hope and stay.
2012.240000 2021.040000 On Christ the solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand, all other ground is
2021.040000 2023.080000 sinking sand.
2023.080000 2029.840000 And when he shall come again with trumpet sound, oh may I then in him be found dressed in
2029.840000 2034.240000 his righteousness alone, faultless to stand before the throne.
2034.240000 2042.560000 On Christ the solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand, all other ground is
2042.560000 2045.840000 sinking sand.
2045.840000 2064.080000 I'm Sarah and I'm Mary Beth and this is trustworthy.
2064.080000 2069.920000 Hey y'all, Mary Beth here, Sarah and I are so glad that you chose to listen to our podcast.
2069.920000 2075.000000 And while we think that we're awesome friends to have, we just wanted to clarify that we are
2075.000000 2078.960000 not mental health professionals and want you to know that this podcast should not take
2078.960000 2081.840000 the place of any paid professional advice.