18.250875 22.970875 Well, hello there, Mary Beth, for the 50th time.
22.970875 25.090875 Hello, Sarah.
25.090875 28.730875 It's Trustworthy's 50th episode.
28.730875 31.670875 Do-do-do.
31.670875 33.510875 No, it should be-- it should be happy music.
33.510875 34.810875 Ta-da!
34.810875 36.650875 Ta-da-da!
36.650875 38.690875 OK, we don't know what we're doing yet,
38.690875 40.290875 and we've been doing this for 50 episodes.
40.290875 41.890875 We certainly have.
41.890875 43.210875 But let's just say this.
43.210875 45.490875 We are happy to be here with you listeners
45.490875 48.610875 for our 50th episode of Trustworthy.
48.610875 49.730875 It's pretty exciting.
49.730875 51.450875 We didn't know if we'd ever make it this far,
51.450875 53.290875 and yet here we are.
53.290875 58.930875 When we started this journey, 50 seemed like a mountain to climb.
58.930875 60.770875 But here we are.
60.770875 64.970875 And something magical is about to happen when this airs.
64.970875 66.730875 Are we time-traveling?
66.730875 68.530875 Is that the magical thing?
68.530875 70.530875 I don't know what the magical thing is going to be.
70.530875 74.970875 All I know is that it's a big deal to get to 50.
74.970875 81.330875 And so I feel like something magical is going to happen.
81.330875 82.570875 Don't know what that is.
82.570875 85.090875 In a way, we are time-traveling.
85.090875 86.570875 Oh, yes.
86.570875 90.610875 Because on this episode, would you call this our greatest hits
90.610875 94.290875 episode, our two-disc CD set?
94.290875 95.810875 Yes, extended cut.
95.810875 98.290875 Actually, it's not extended cuts.
98.290875 99.250875 It's shortened cuts.
99.250875 100.130875 It's shortened cuts.
100.130875 100.730875 That's right.
100.730875 102.970875 Tell the listeners what they're getting today, Sarah.
102.970875 106.410875 Listeners, today, you are going to get
106.410875 110.450875 to hear some clips from each of our three seasons.
110.450875 114.810875 Mary Beth and I have each chosen a clip from season 1, 2, and 3.
114.810875 117.090875 And we will get to share them with each other.
117.090875 118.130875 And you.
118.130875 122.650875 Yeah, we thought we would share what has stuck with us
122.650875 126.730875 as hosts from the episodes that we've recorded,
126.730875 129.170875 and maybe some of those Ebenezer moments
129.170875 131.810875 that have stuck out to us specifically.
131.810875 133.570875 And maybe there are some episodes that you haven't ever
133.570875 137.250875 listened to, and this will kind of give you a reason
137.250875 139.130875 to go back and listen, or maybe it'll jog your memory
139.130875 140.530875 on something you heard previously.
140.530875 143.730875 So we hope that this is a blessing to you
143.730875 148.730875 as we look back on our first 49 episodes.
148.730875 151.330875 Yes.
151.330875 158.570875 So for my season 1 clip, I chose episode 4.
158.570875 165.930875 How can I trust God when I can't trust myself?
165.930875 168.370875 I thought that my emotions were everything,
168.370875 170.170875 and like how I felt about something
170.170875 172.850875 was the most important thing than I realized
172.850875 174.770875 that I couldn't trust those feelings.
174.770875 176.450875 And because I was being guided by the feelings
176.450875 180.770875 that meant that I was untrustworthy, well, what was I going to do?
180.770875 186.090875 So I went to the source that I knew was trustworthy.
186.090875 189.050875 I have discovered this principle of life
189.050875 191.850875 that when I want to do what is right,
191.850875 194.730875 I inevitably do what is wrong.
194.730875 199.810875 I love God's law with all my heart.
199.810875 204.290875 But there is another power within me that is at war with my mind.
204.290875 209.570875 This power makes me a slave to the sin that is still within me.
209.570875 213.930875 Oh, what a miserable person I am.
213.930875 220.290875 Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin and death?
220.290875 222.690875 Oh, thank God.
222.690875 227.370875 The answer is in Jesus Christ, our Lord.
227.370875 230.690875 If that's not the most relatable thing Paul ever wrote,
230.690875 233.130875 it's pretty close up there.
233.130875 236.250875 Yeah, I think so.
236.250875 240.210875 I'm very grateful for that vulnerability
240.210875 242.970875 that God has given us in Scripture
242.970875 247.570875 for someone who, Paul had this dramatic conversion
247.570875 251.930875 and wrote a lot of the Scripture that we read today.
251.930875 255.690875 God intentionally included that portion to say,
255.690875 259.850875 you know what, Mary Beth and Sarah in 2024,
259.850875 263.890875 what you are experiencing is not new.
263.890875 268.570875 And there is a battle going on in your soul, in your body,
268.570875 271.730875 in your physical body between good and evil,
271.730875 275.250875 between right and wrong.
275.250875 278.490875 And it often leads us to this place of,
278.490875 282.530875 I don't know that I can trust myself because I'm a mess.
282.530875 284.610875 So then what do we do with it?
284.610875 291.570875 All right, Sarah, why did you choose that clip?
291.570875 298.290875 I chose that clip because
298.290875 305.650875 I still struggle with a feeling like I let myself down
305.650875 310.050875 and keep having to come back to the fact
310.050875 315.450875 that the most trustworthy thing in my life is the Lord.
315.450875 320.410875 And looking back on that conversation two years ago,
320.410875 323.530875 I think of all the things that have happened,
323.530875 324.890875 you know, in these last two years.
324.890875 328.810875 And there have been some great things
328.810875 331.450875 and there have been some mistakes that I've made
331.450875 333.770875 that I just, I've let myself down
333.770875 335.530875 or let other people down.
335.530875 337.010875 And I just, I hate that.
337.010875 338.090875 I hate that so much.
338.090875 341.090875 But there's grace and there's mercy
341.090875 344.970875 and looking at someone like Paul,
344.970875 348.050875 even we've been studying David recently too.
348.050875 350.370875 Paul and David, it gives me so much hope
350.370875 355.650875 that God sees past my shortcomings
355.650875 359.250875 and his opinion is the one that matters the most.
359.250875 360.290875 And he's trustworthy.
360.290875 362.850875 Like I think we went on to say in this episode
362.850875 366.930875 that Paul's a great demonstration of how
366.930875 370.170875 when we are untrustworthy, like he couldn't trust himself
370.170875 372.490875 because he had a thorn in the flesh he said he struggled.
372.490875 374.570875 I mean, you know, all the things.
374.570875 380.210875 But his life was a testament to the trustworthiness of God.
380.210875 384.050875 And I would hope that my life is to.
384.050875 390.370875 I have a feeling that as we go through these,
390.370875 393.050875 we're going to see that all of them are just as relevant today
393.050875 395.770875 as they were when we recorded them.
395.770875 399.810875 I kind of laughed when I said in that clip 2024
399.810875 401.290875 because my brain was like, what?
401.290875 403.810875 Wow, that was two years ago.
403.810875 406.090875 I still am trying to learn that, right?
406.090875 408.730875 I'm still trying to do that every day,
408.730875 411.210875 rely on the trustworthiness of God.
411.210875 417.290875 I guess what we can conclude is the name of this podcast
417.290875 419.290875 is still very appropriate.
419.290875 420.290875 Yeah.
420.290875 427.490875 So for my season one clip, I chose something from episode three,
427.490875 430.490875 which was our second episode on work.
430.490875 436.050875 All right, here we go.
437.050875 445.330875 And that he is the one who is restoring it is, is planning it.
445.330875 448.530875 I mean, when we, when we moved here,
448.530875 452.130875 it was a very lonely time for us as a family
452.130875 453.930875 because we didn't know anybody here.
453.930875 457.050875 I knew nothing about this area of the world
457.050875 459.410875 until the day I drove to our apartment
459.410875 462.370875 that we were renting that my husband had signed the lease for.
462.370875 468.610875 So I bring my baby into this place that I literally had no concept of.
468.610875 472.370875 And so I think that there was a lot of, I have a desire for community.
472.370875 478.250875 I have a desire for all these things that I had in my past season of life.
478.250875 480.330875 And so the desire was not wrong.
480.330875 483.050875 It was that it might not look the way I wanted to look.
483.050875 484.370875 It might not happen on the timeline.
484.370875 485.810875 I wanted to happen.
485.810875 490.610875 I had a hard time with wanting people to know the old me
490.610875 494.010875 because no one here knew that I was this career person in DC
494.010875 497.970875 who like got to do cool things and had her back together.
497.970875 501.570875 They just knew me as, oh, that's that new lady with the baby.
501.570875 502.810875 And she's pregnant.
502.810875 507.410875 And so this was a whole new realm of how do people know me?
507.410875 508.610875 What are they actually about me?
508.610875 510.330875 And it's like I was a mom.
510.330875 514.890875 Yeah, I got really wrapped up in other people's perception of me
514.890875 520.410875 and letting that define whether God was doing what I wanted him to do or not.
520.410875 524.330875 And so I think how he has redeemed some of that over the past few years
524.330875 530.050875 is slowing me down and saying, you are a boss.
530.050875 530.810875 Right.
530.810875 533.290875 So obvious, hello, open your eyes.
533.290875 536.570875 This is this is what I have given you in this season of life.
536.570875 540.490875 Why are you so quick to not run away from it?
540.490875 544.930875 But to question great, what I'm doing.
544.930875 547.890875 I want to just go back for a second to something you just said.
547.890875 552.290875 You said, I was very wrapped up and other people's perception of me
552.290875 557.370875 and using that to figure out if God was, yeah, if God was doing what I thought
557.370875 560.290875 he should be doing what I wanted him to be doing.
560.290875 562.490875 Well, isn't that interesting?
562.490875 567.970875 The other day I was reading the New Morning Mercy's devotional
567.970875 570.570875 from Paul David trip, which we love.
570.570875 576.930875 And he had a really interesting quote that I thought was pretty funny.
576.930875 580.690875 This is from the April 2nd day, New Morning Mercies.
580.690875 586.970875 In this way, prayer often amounts to shopping at the Trinitarian department store
586.970875 591.730875 for the things that you have told yourself you need with the hope that they will be free.
591.730875 595.490875 I just chuckled when I read that and when you just said that, I was gauging
595.490875 602.890875 how other people saw me as whether or not God was giving me what I wanted.
602.890875 607.330875 Good old Trinitarian department store.
607.330875 614.010875 Yeah, I've picked this one because I feel like it's one of the few things in my life
614.010875 617.650875 that I can look back and say, okay, there has been growth.
617.650875 622.970875 I can actually see a difference in my life from when we recorded that to now.
622.970875 630.730875 And not that I've, how does Paul say not that I have fully achieved it?
630.730875 639.250875 But just that even in the past couple of years, surrendering more of my identity
639.250875 644.610875 and where God's put me and embracing where He's put me and getting my priorities a little more
644.610875 647.090875 in the right spot.
647.090875 652.810875 And I think that this conversation that we had was a big part of that, of like helping
652.810875 655.090875 me process some of that.
655.090875 659.890875 And also, I think this led to some of our other episodes, things about prayer, things
659.890875 662.770875 about identity, things about personality.
662.770875 666.390875 We kind of built off of a lot of this on the podcast as well.
666.390875 670.970875 And so yeah, just personally in my own personal growth, it's been, it's been really helpful
670.970875 676.850875 to have this platform to process things for, you know, we talk about it all the time.
676.850875 682.530875 Like we're preaching to ourselves here for our own growth and our own knowledge and growing
682.530875 685.290875 our depth of knowledge of who God is and who He's made us to be.
685.290875 686.290875 Yeah.
686.290875 690.610875 And I think that you're probably right.
690.610875 696.010875 And I also noticed that as well, even with the first clip I chose is that those themes have
696.010875 699.210875 come up throughout our time.
699.210875 703.330875 Well, let's see, let's see if there's any more like that.
703.330875 708.650875 So for my second season clip, I chose a clip from our interview with Leslie Thomas.
708.650875 709.650875 Nice.
709.650875 710.650875 So she's amazing.
710.650875 713.650875 Let's enjoy this.
713.650875 718.550875 I think like up into that, I mean, I was a youth pastor, a Christ follower for ever since
718.550875 719.550875 I can remember.
719.550875 722.250875 And so this idea of heaven is not new to me.
722.250875 728.370875 However, when someone that you love is all of the sun there and not here like that, that
728.370875 732.890875 idea of heaven and eternity just snapped right into perspective for me and all of a
732.890875 736.530875 sudden it felt very tangible in a way that maybe it didn't before.
736.530875 743.330875 I'm really grateful for that because eternity means so much more to me now than it did
743.330875 744.330875 before.
744.330875 752.330875 And my yearning has turned from desperation into this unbridled fiery hope and assurance that
752.330875 759.130875 that's where we get to be if we love and declare Jesus as Lord, taking it back to that trust
759.130875 764.210875 worthy bit, being able to trust that God is who he says he is.
764.210875 766.050875 And that is what he's promised.
766.050875 769.970875 And oh my goodness, what a promise to be able to trust.
769.970875 771.690875 It's a lifeline for me.
771.690875 776.870875 I don't know how people lose anyone or lose a trial, fill in the blank without knowing
776.870875 779.170875 like you sense there, oh, I know where they are.
779.170875 784.450875 And I know because I love Jesus that I will get to see them and the Lord again.
784.450875 793.730875 I think that trust in that has lit my soul on fire in a way that has made living here
793.730875 802.770875 on earth not a drudgery up until I get to go to heaven, but just a joy that all right, I
802.770875 803.770875 know where I'm going.
803.770875 804.770875 I know where she is.
804.770875 806.410875 I know where I get to be someday.
806.410875 812.610875 And so darn it while I'm here, we're going to have some fun and we are going to live because
812.610875 814.090875 that's also a gift.
814.090875 820.250875 And it went from being a burden to man, what an honor that I get to live here.
820.250875 827.450875 And then I get to live there.
827.450875 832.990875 Wow, yeah.
832.990875 842.810875 I chose that because that episode, so full of heartbreak, but so full of hope.
842.810875 849.530875 And just before this clip, she had been sharing the loss of Kamri and how it had just devastated
849.530875 856.050875 her and she just didn't, she just wanted to be in heaven with Jesus and Kamri.
856.050875 871.150875 And to hear the hope that was born out of such abject, desolation and sorrow, man, that's
871.150875 872.150875 what the gospel is, right?
872.150875 873.450875 That's the good news.
873.450875 876.570875 That's what Jesus has done for us.
876.570875 884.850875 And even though it was so sad, it just is something that gives me so much hope.
884.850875 891.970875 I often think that her story in her life is the perfect demonstration of that, just recurring
891.970875 894.890875 theme and scripture of suffering before glory.
894.890875 899.030875 It's just constantly reminding us all throughout scripture and all the ways that God redeems
899.030875 900.030875 as people.
900.030875 904.690875 There's always suffering before glory and she has experienced that on a level that I have
904.690875 913.930875 not and as she just explained, she has an appreciation and an understanding of eternity
913.930875 917.330875 and reality in a way that I do not.
917.330875 925.510875 And she's so good, though, at sharing those other people and living into that truth.
925.510875 934.250875 I think that that's part of what this podcast has been and become is a way for us to share
934.250875 942.170875 not only our lives, but the lives of the people in our community with the intention that
942.170875 944.530875 others can find that same hope.
944.530875 954.370875 Well, along similar lines, my season two choice was another interview with another
954.370875 957.610875 wise sister in Christ.
957.610875 966.570875 So I chose episode six, part of our discussion with Ms. Margaret Lutley.
966.570875 970.770875 Do you feel like you're in a wilderness now at this point in your life?
970.770875 982.450875 Yes, I would say yes, because one continues to long to see people come to know Jesus and
982.450875 988.930875 it's lovely that it's happening at church, but it isn't happening in my neighborhood.
988.930875 996.930875 And so maybe people are more open in the poverty on the hillside than they are when they've
996.930875 998.290875 got everything.
998.290875 1000.570875 We've got everything.
1000.570875 1008.170875 I could play that every day of my life as a reminder, I'm like getting teary, just hearing
1008.170875 1015.170875 her talk about it, for those who haven't listened to it, Margaret spent many years as a missionary
1015.170875 1016.610875 in South America.
1016.610875 1022.770875 And yeah, I'd encourage you just to go back and listen to more of her story, but I chose
1022.770875 1032.630875 this clip because it is really easy in Chester County, Pennsylvania to have Margaret's
1032.630875 1035.390875 perspective and feel like you're in a wilderness.
1035.390875 1045.710875 And so I need people like her who, you know, close to the final chapters of her life.
1045.710875 1053.030875 She continues to long to see people come to know Jesus and she wants to see it in her neighborhood.
1053.030875 1059.830875 She wants to see it with the other folks that live in her retirement community that's
1059.830875 1061.630875 still her heart's aim.
1061.630875 1065.710875 Yeah, and I hope that is my heart's aim tomorrow.
1065.710875 1071.830875 And I hope this is my heart's aim when I'm her age if I am able to be here that long.
1071.830875 1074.650875 Yeah.
1074.650875 1083.350875 How often I'm caught up in my own work-a-day world, problems, daily, just all the things,
1083.350875 1089.030875 all the busyness that the enemy would distract me with.
1089.030875 1095.710875 And there's a bigger goal.
1095.710875 1096.910875 How will they know?
1096.910875 1100.550875 How will people know if we don't tell them?
1100.550875 1103.310875 That's right.
1103.310875 1110.790875 And just how will the next generation know if they're not connected to the Margaret Lutley's?
1110.790875 1111.790875 You know what I mean?
1111.790875 1112.790875 Yeah.
1112.790875 1113.790875 Wow.
1113.790875 1120.550875 I think listeners that Mary Beth and I are spending a lot of time just thinking about all the
1120.550875 1125.710875 possibilities that could be just coming out of these episode clips that we're listening
1125.710875 1127.110875 to now.
1127.110875 1132.390875 And this has been really enjoyable so far to go back and hear these.
1132.390875 1136.870875 All right, Sarah, who did you or what did you pick from season three?
1136.870875 1137.870875 Okay.
1137.870875 1142.390875 From season three, I picked our interview with Denise Derr.
1142.390875 1146.710875 This one really had a big, big impact on me.
1146.710875 1148.590875 Denise is amazing.
1148.590875 1153.990875 She is her own force of nature.
1153.990875 1163.230875 I mean, she's just is, she is a presence that brings so much energy and joy into a room.
1163.230875 1166.590875 And I just love listening to her talk.
1166.590875 1169.350875 So here's a clip from that interview.
1169.350875 1185.090875 It's just amazing to look back and see that process, but it was all God.
1185.090875 1192.350875 And I was just trying to be obedient when I was asked to be co-minister really, I'm like,
1192.350875 1194.150875 I don't think I'm your girl.
1194.150875 1199.230875 You know what I mean?
1199.230875 1203.470875 That's the same voice back all those years ago that said, oh, God's not for me.
1203.470875 1209.470875 God's for other people and God's for the good ones, not for me.
1209.470875 1212.270875 This is too much of a project for him.
1212.270875 1214.230875 That shame can kind of creep back in.
1214.230875 1215.230875 Absolutely.
1215.230875 1220.270875 Second guess in yourself, you know, and like I might have mentioned my character defects,
1220.270875 1224.670875 God removed them forever?
1224.670875 1225.670875 No.
1225.670875 1226.670875 Yeah.
1226.670875 1233.790875 I'm human and just like in your verses of Romans that you had read, I can fall back into
1233.790875 1234.790875 that sin.
1234.790875 1241.390875 That's a daily thing that all humans can fall into.
1241.390875 1242.390875 Yeah.
1242.390875 1243.390875 Yeah.
1243.390875 1244.950875 We were reading some scripture before we started.
1244.950875 1245.950875 Yeah.
1245.950875 1248.950875 You're talking about Romans 7, 19 to 25.
1248.950875 1249.950875 Perfect.
1249.950875 1258.190875 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do this I keep on doing.
1258.190875 1264.390875 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living
1264.390875 1266.070875 in me that does it.
1266.070875 1272.070875 So I find this law at work, although I want to do good, evil is right there with me.
1272.070875 1277.670875 For in my inner being I delight in God's law, but I see another law at work in me waging
1277.670875 1283.030875 war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within
1283.030875 1284.030875 me.
1284.030875 1290.070875 What a wretched man I am who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death.
1290.070875 1294.310875 Thanks be to God who delivers me through Jesus Christ, our Lord.
1294.310875 1295.310875 Amen.
1295.310875 1296.310875 Amen.
1296.310875 1303.150875 Even that concept in verse 23 that there's something that's waging war against us all the
1303.150875 1304.950875 time.
1304.950875 1307.070875 And we have to fight back.
1307.070875 1308.070875 Yeah.
1308.070875 1312.150875 Christ is the one that ultimately does it for us fights our battles for us.
1312.150875 1319.870875 But it's easy sometimes to just let the enemy take over, you know, but we're not fighting
1319.870875 1320.870875 alone.
1320.870875 1321.870875 Yeah.
1321.870875 1324.470875 No, we're not praise God.
1324.470875 1325.470875 Yes.
1325.470875 1330.110875 Oh, notice anything about those verses?
1330.110875 1336.630875 To be perfectly honest, they tied into a conversation I was having with one of my sons
1336.630875 1337.630875 last night.
1337.630875 1342.270875 I'm going to read him that passage when I, when he gets home from school today ago, and
1342.270875 1347.710875 they are the same verses from the first clip, yeah.
1347.710875 1355.470875 And it was so funny because I, I really kept trying to find other clips that didn't have
1355.470875 1357.310875 the same verses in them.
1357.310875 1361.590875 And after about an hour or two, I stopped trying.
1361.590875 1367.710875 And that was such an interesting interview.
1367.710875 1372.070875 And so I took some excerpts from that, but there was a piece in there that I did cut out
1372.070875 1377.390875 a little bit where we had talked about the technical difficulties that we'd had that day.
1377.390875 1378.390875 Yeah.
1378.390875 1379.390875 I forgot about that.
1379.390875 1380.390875 Yeah.
1380.390875 1383.390875 Where we had recorded over half the episode and we had to go back and re-record it.
1383.390875 1389.270875 And so when she was talking about the verses in Romans in our time, we'd already read them,
1389.270875 1390.710875 but on the recording we hadn't.
1390.710875 1394.110875 So we had to kind of go back and like patch it all in.
1394.110875 1402.310875 And since that episode has aired, I've had so many people come up to me and just feedback
1402.310875 1405.710875 saying, hey, thank you so much.
1405.710875 1411.110875 Our step study, it's, listen to this, like people like in the CR community, people
1411.110875 1414.150875 have been sharing this episode and talking about this.
1414.150875 1421.530875 And wow, I mean, this is only, I guess, yeah, less than a year, half a year.
1421.530875 1426.670875 And already the impact has been, I don't even know, only God knows.
1426.670875 1428.550875 Denise is a leader with celebrate recovery.
1428.550875 1431.510875 Denise is a leader with celebrate recovery, yeah.
1431.510875 1436.910875 For me, the thing that I took out of that is not only do we need to keep, again, relying
1436.910875 1444.110875 on the strength of the Lord and this brought up the idea of the armor of God that we
1444.110875 1450.030875 used to help protect ourselves and to wage war against the darkness.
1450.030875 1454.670875 This brought up so much, but I thought it was so interesting that it tied back in with
1454.670875 1460.350875 what we talked about at the very beginning of the podcast of working through this.
1460.350875 1462.350875 How can I trust myself?
1462.350875 1469.790875 It's just making me think, because I do listen to a variety of other podcasts.
1469.790875 1477.990875 And I often think, ooh, I want to hear what this, you know, well-known person has to say.
1477.990875 1482.030875 And then I go back and I hear clips like this and I'm like, you know what?
1482.030875 1485.830875 God gave us our community to help build us up.
1485.830875 1492.870875 We have these wise, deep people in our own church community here.
1492.870875 1495.070875 We need to be sharing these things more.
1495.070875 1501.710875 We need to be having these conversations more, doesn't have to be on a podcast.
1501.710875 1502.710875 No, it doesn't.
1502.710875 1503.710875 That's right.
1503.710875 1504.710875 It doesn't.
1504.710875 1512.590875 And I think, too, that that's a gift that you and I are given that we are able to do this.
1512.590875 1514.830875 We're able to have these conversations.
1514.830875 1519.230875 And oftentimes when I go to edit, I'm listening, I'm like, wait a minute.
1519.230875 1520.230875 We said that.
1520.230875 1527.150875 I don't even remember, but it's just a testament to the fact that God is using us and, wow,
1527.150875 1530.030875 what a privilege that is, what a privilege.
1530.030875 1534.230875 Well, speaking of some other folks that God is using, would you like to introduce your
1534.230875 1535.230875 next clip?
1535.230875 1536.230875 Yup.
1536.230875 1544.470875 My final choice from season three was our episode with Tom and Chane Hart, who Tom was
1544.470875 1546.950875 one of, he was one of my people in college.
1546.950875 1550.710875 He was part of my close community, my senior year of college.
1550.710875 1555.190875 And now he and Chane serve with Reformed University Fellowship, a college campus ministry,
1555.190875 1561.910875 so listen to what they had said.
1561.910875 1563.070875 So maybe you could talk about that.
1563.070875 1569.870875 What's the key thing that Christians are missing when it comes to innate longing for community?
1569.870875 1572.870875 I think a lot of that has to do with identity in Christ.
1572.870875 1576.630875 I think we, as Christians, we think we know what these
1576.630875 1577.630875 things mean.
1577.630875 1579.750875 And we think that we are doing them.
1579.750875 1586.310875 And then something happens and we get really ruffled and upset about it.
1586.310875 1590.670875 And I think anytime that happens, it reveals our idols.
1590.670875 1596.230875 It reveals the things that we are clutching so deeply to.
1596.230875 1603.150875 And that happens all the time because we just don't fully even know if that's even possible
1603.150875 1609.430875 the side of heaven, 100% finding our identity in Christ and being confident.
1609.430875 1614.350875 There's a huge difference between pride and confidence.
1614.350875 1617.670875 Pride is of the self, confidence is of the Lord.
1617.670875 1623.470875 If we have firm, secure identity in Christ, everything flows out of that.
1623.470875 1628.270875 Then we're just able to move around in this world freely.
1628.270875 1632.990875 I can give more freely, we can receive more freely.
1632.990875 1640.430875 We're not going to get offended at other people or feel insecure because this mom's doing
1640.430875 1643.110875 this or these people are doing this.
1643.110875 1645.470875 It's like, who has God made me to be?
1645.470875 1648.550875 Who am I and light of him?
1648.550875 1650.070875 That's just going to be different for all of us.
1650.070875 1653.630875 We're all image bearers in different ways.
1653.630875 1656.830875 And if we have families, our kids are different people.
1656.830875 1664.910875 I just think we compare ourselves to others so much and we really are just like operating
1664.910875 1669.950875 out of deep insecurity.
1669.950875 1673.910875 I loved this conversation with Tom and Chane.
1673.910875 1677.030875 There's that phrase tip of the spear.
1677.030875 1681.350875 They are working with college students on college campus and they are at the forefront
1681.350875 1684.750875 of what's happening in the next generation of our country.
1684.750875 1691.750875 And Chane, in particular, had wanted to share this idea that a lot of us as Christians,
1691.750875 1701.230875 as believers, are doing the right things or in the right places, are seemingly good
1701.230875 1702.310875 Christians, right?
1702.310875 1709.630875 But there's this whole lack of the freedom that Christ gives when our identity is locked
1709.630875 1716.390875 in to who he's made us to be, and I just love this discussion with them about what that
1716.390875 1717.870875 can actually look like.
1717.870875 1723.090875 I mean, they have a hard go at it as campus ministers and people who are moving from
1723.090875 1726.910875 campus to campus and starting over with community and kids and all that.
1726.910875 1734.750875 And so they speak from experience that when the storm comes, they're on a solid rock
1734.750875 1737.670875 because they're not relying on who they think they are or what others think of them.
1737.670875 1741.250875 They're relying on who Christ says they are, which I think is a lesson for all of us.
1741.250875 1742.250875 Yeah.
1742.250875 1747.030875 And also raising their own support to be able to keep the ministry going and to support
1747.030875 1748.030875 their family.
1748.030875 1751.630875 I think that that's a remarkable, remarkable thing.
1751.630875 1755.030875 I am not sure that I could do that.
1755.030875 1763.510875 What I really heard in this clip, and I'm so glad you chose it, is the identity.
1763.510875 1769.990875 And I think it was the perfect capstone to all of these clips because each of them sort
1769.990875 1782.470875 of speaks to who we are in Christ, that we can rest in him in his ways, to be able to
1782.470875 1792.910875 find ourselves trustworthy if we're following him, that we can take our identity from him regardless
1792.910875 1803.350875 of our role in life, that if we have pain of loss, that we're still God's child and he still
1803.350875 1816.030875 loves us and we have the hope of eternity, that if we have the beautiful feet, if we are
1816.030875 1824.550875 bringing the gospel to our community, our neighborhood, our God's emissaries, where ministers
1824.550875 1830.230875 with the gospel of peace just think back to the armor of God and market talking about people
1830.230875 1831.230875 coming to the Lord.
1831.230875 1837.510875 And there's someone whose shoes are fitted with the readiness of sharing the gospel.
1837.510875 1838.830875 Yeah.
1838.830875 1847.510875 And Denise, wow, what a story she has of fully embracing her identity in Christ.
1847.510875 1857.150875 So I think if I would have one take away, it would be know who you are in the Lord.
1857.150875 1860.630875 And to do that, you need to know the Lord.
1860.630875 1866.870875 And to sit and have conversations like this, recounting the goodness of the Lord in the
1866.870875 1867.870875 land of the living.
1867.870875 1873.030875 That was something from our recent conversation with Ashley from Preserve magazine, we talked
1873.030875 1874.670875 a lot about the goodness of the Lord.
1874.670875 1879.950875 And it just really made me think about Leslie's story as well.
1879.950875 1887.230875 So wow, this has been, oh, this is this all feels kind of not necessarily sad, but these
1887.230875 1888.950875 are some big hevy topics.
1888.950875 1889.950875 It's heavy.
1889.950875 1890.950875 Yeah.
1890.950875 1891.950875 Yeah.
1891.950875 1892.950875 Hevy.
1892.950875 1896.790875 It's supposed to be a 50th episode extravaganza Marybeth.
1896.790875 1899.230875 I can put you on the hot seat if you want, Sarah.
1899.230875 1900.230875 Okay.
1900.230875 1901.230875 Okay.
1901.230875 1902.230875 Let's do that.
1902.230875 1904.270875 Let's segue into some hot seat questions.
1904.270875 1905.270875 Okay.
1905.270875 1908.750875 Sarah, this is our 50th episode.
1908.750875 1913.030875 What do you think we're going to be talking about on our 100th episode?
1913.030875 1914.030875 Hmm.
1914.030875 1918.030875 Uh, about how maybe I'll be 50 then.
1918.030875 1919.030875 Nice.
1919.030875 1920.030875 No.
1920.030875 1921.030875 Let's not talk about that.
1921.030875 1924.190875 Let me talk about our 100th episode.
1924.190875 1927.670875 Well, Marybeth, I hope it's more of the same thing.
1927.670875 1928.670875 Yeah.
1928.670875 1929.670875 That's what I was thinking too.
1929.670875 1930.670875 Yeah, more of the same.
1930.670875 1931.670875 Right.
1931.670875 1932.670875 Yeah.
1932.670875 1937.390875 It's just because we keep saying this, let me never preach anything I don't need to hear
1937.390875 1938.390875 myself.
1938.390875 1939.390875 And man.
1939.390875 1940.390875 Yeah.
1940.390875 1947.350875 That's, it's um, yeah, we're preaching to ourselves every day, every day.
1947.350875 1948.350875 All right.
1948.350875 1950.950875 Marybeth, here's your hot seat question.
1950.950875 1954.030875 Bring it on.
1954.030875 1963.310875 If you were going to be on a desert island for a year, and you could only bring one type
1963.310875 1965.510875 of item, but there had to be 50 of them.
1965.510875 1966.510875 Oh, man.
1966.510875 1969.510875 What item in a multiple of 50 would you bring?
1969.510875 1970.510875 sunscreen.
1970.510875 1978.430875 50 bottles of sunscreen, if for a year, I'd probably need it.
1978.430875 1982.510875 My immediate thought when I go to like beach island is, don't forget sunscreen because I'm
1982.510875 1983.510875 so pale.
1983.510875 1984.510875 All right.
1984.510875 1986.310875 Let me think about this in a better way though.
1986.310875 1988.030875 50 of the same thing.
1988.030875 1989.030875 Yeah.
1989.030875 2001.670875 I mean, I'm so practical, I go to things like sunscreen, water, a phone to get off the island.
2001.670875 2008.390875 Um, I don't, I don't think I need 50 Bibles, so that won't be the good church answer.
2008.390875 2009.390875 Yeah.
2009.390875 2010.390875 Huh.
2010.390875 2017.590875 I honestly don't know what would do you have an answer to this?
2017.590875 2018.590875 I love it.
2018.590875 2024.950875 I'm thinking, I'm thinking 50, you know, meal ration kits or something or 50 survival kits
2024.950875 2029.710875 or like 50 different trees that will grow fruit on that island.
2029.710875 2030.710875 Exactly.
2030.710875 2031.710875 In a year.
2031.710875 2032.710875 Yeah.
2032.710875 2033.710875 Yeah.
2033.710875 2034.710875 Yeah.
2034.710875 2035.710875 Uh, okay.
2035.710875 2036.710875 Can I give you one more?
2036.710875 2037.710875 Yeah.
2037.710875 2038.710875 Yeah.
2038.710875 2039.710875 It is summertime.
2039.710875 2046.270875 Last year, you took a very long big trip, this year, you're not taking a very long big trip.
2046.270875 2053.390875 What would be if you could have your perfect staycation day in Chester County, what would be
2053.390875 2055.430875 your perfect staycation day here?
2055.430875 2060.430875 That's a great question.
2060.430875 2064.390875 Budget is unlimited, weather is whatever you want it to be.
2064.390875 2076.990875 I would probably get up and have a cup of coffee in my gazebo out in the garden.
2076.990875 2088.210875 Then I would eat a very light breakfast power snack, go for a bike ride, where it was just
2088.210875 2094.070875 in Chester County, then I guess I'd have to go to either Harmony Hill or Brandywine or
2094.070875 2103.370875 Marsh Creek, maybe with speed by yourself or with anyone else? with my friends with my other
2103.370875 2105.730875 girl coach friends from my team.
2105.730875 2106.730875 Yeah.
2106.730875 2107.730875 That would be fun.
2107.730875 2109.050875 Go for a bike ride.
2109.050875 2117.250875 Then we would go out to lunch, someplace outside with a good food.
2117.250875 2127.250875 And then I would probably get a shower, but I would end the evening with my family and
2127.250875 2134.890875 some other friends, hopefully you, at Longwood Gardens in the beer garden, listening to
2134.890875 2143.570875 some live music, and with my chair already set up for the lighted fountain show.
2143.570875 2150.610875 And we would be having some delicious local wines or beers, and eating some of that delicious
2150.610875 2156.050875 pizza that they make there, or some other thing, listening to music.
2156.050875 2160.890875 I think that would be, and then watch the fountain show.
2160.890875 2161.890875 Yeah.
2161.890875 2164.490875 That would probably be my perfect day.
2164.490875 2172.530875 I mean, if I could squeeze a massage in there, pedicure, maybe.
2172.530875 2173.530875 All right.
2173.530875 2175.970875 That's a great question.
2175.970875 2178.290875 Now, I want to have a day like that.
2178.290875 2179.290875 I know.
2179.290875 2180.290875 All right.
2180.290875 2181.290875 Your goal for the summer now.
2181.290875 2182.290875 Sounds good.
2182.290875 2183.290875 Did you notice?
2183.290875 2186.250875 I was like, Oh, I put my family in at the end of the day.
2186.250875 2187.250875 I did.
2187.250875 2188.250875 I did.
2188.250875 2189.250875 They were there.
2189.250875 2190.250875 They were there.
2190.250875 2191.250875 All right.
2191.250875 2192.250875 Okay.
2192.250875 2193.250875 Well, how about you, Mary Beth?
2193.250875 2194.410875 I'm going to turn about spare play.
2194.410875 2195.690875 What's your perfect staycation?
2195.690875 2196.690875 
2196.690875 2197.690875 Same question.
2197.690875 2207.690875 Um, I think I would start with a little bit of alone time to get the day going, sometimes
2207.690875 2210.810875 it's hard to wake up and immediately have demands upon you, right?
2210.810875 2212.930875 It's a little bit of alone time.
2212.930875 2223.690875 Go to go to either farmer and co or Talulas, get myself a chai, enjoy the vibe.
2223.690875 2226.090875 And then Longwood was on my list too.
2226.090875 2227.090875 And I was debating.
2227.090875 2233.330875 Do I want to go to Longwood by myself or woudl I want to go with other people?
2233.330875 2235.250875 I feel like it's a great spot in the winter.
2235.250875 2236.650875 I like going by myself a lot.
2236.650875 2240.690875 So I think in the summer, I would want to go with other people, uh, but it sounds like
2240.690875 2243.130875 you've already planned for us to be there that evening at the beer garden.
2243.130875 2244.130875 So I'll meet you there.
2244.130875 2245.130875 Sounds good.
2245.130875 2246.130875 Family.
2246.130875 2247.130875 Yeah.
2247.130875 2249.250875 So in between, what would I do the rest of the day?
2249.250875 2253.970875 I do a love just walk around downtown Kennett. I like popping in the little shops, window
2253.970875 2259.130875 shopping, things like that?
2259.130875 2264.210875 I think also it would be doing something with the boys, you know, take them to the library,
2264.210875 2270.850875 take them to a park, take them to go do something, and do something.
2270.850875 2274.330875 And then I was trying to think about the food.
2274.330875 2277.450875 When you were talking about food, I was like, man, what would my food answer be?
2277.450875 2282.370875 Because that's a tricky one.
2282.370875 2287.450875 I think part of it might just be, like grilling out at home and having the neighbors over for lunch
2287.450875 2292.370875 or something, like just a relaxed, come hang out time.
2292.370875 2293.570875 We really like our neighborhood.
2293.570875 2296.690875 We really like our neighbors.
2296.690875 2299.490875 And yeah, then maybe go the Longwood in the evening.
2299.490875 2303.170875 I think that sounds delightful, and I think it's also sounds doable.
2303.170875 2304.170875 So now I'm like, I think it does.
2304.170875 2305.690875 I think we need to make this happen this summer.
2305.690875 2306.690875 I know.
2306.690875 2308.290875 I feel like we do.
2308.290875 2315.490875 Well, listeners, thank you so much for tuning in for some lighthearted moments, but I'm just
2315.490875 2322.370875 a time of reflecting on not only what God was doing in our hearts a couple of years ago,
2322.370875 2328.730875 but the way that He's working in our lives now and the lives of those in our community.
2328.730875 2337.050875 We believe that you are our community, and we pray that these conversations are working
2337.050875 2340.870875 in your heart and mind as well for the glory of God.
2340.870875 2343.970875 Thanks for listening, and we will talk to you in the fall.
2343.970875 2349.570875 I'm Sarah, and I'm Mary Beth, and this is Trustworthy.