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This is Trustworthy.

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Hi, I'm Sarah.

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And I'm Mary Beth.

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Join us for Conversations in Community,

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established by a trustworthy God.

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Well, hello there, Mary Beth.

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Welcome to Trustworthy.

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Thanks, Sarah.

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I'm so happy to be here.

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Thanks for having me on today.

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You're welcome.

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I have been wanting to have you on for, well, a couple weeks.

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(laughing)

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- Since the last time I was here.

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- This is the last time you were here.

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- But thanks for having me back and not kicking me out yet.

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- You're welcome.

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I love being in community with you.

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Speaking of community, 'cause that is what we're talking about,

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I was not surprised to see you Friday night

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at the homecoming football game.

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- Go long, Horns.

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- That's right.

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And I was thinking a lot about it

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in the context of what we discussed in our last episode.

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There's a lot of culture floating around that stadium and a nice community feeling.

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What was your experience of that?

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We love Friday Night Football for a lot of reasons.

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My husband grew up playing football.

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My boys currently play flag football.

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And we love going to those games because it's one way that we see our boys stepping into

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culture and community.

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They immediately want to find their friends and toss a football around on the sidelines.

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They run into their teachers.

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We get to see friends from different pockets of life that are all part of that same community.

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You know, I was able to say, Hey boys, this is one of the ladies from that group of moms

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that prays for you every week.

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So they're getting those tangible touch points of there are Christians in our broader community

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who are engaged in supporting the same things we are, which is a great benefit.

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And also, it is a fun event for our community, and it's a great way to build positive culture

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that fosters relationship and support for one another.

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And we love it.

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We're pro Friday Night Football.

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So I thought it was a really great sort of snapshot of what we've been talking about

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in the last episode.

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So if you want to know what we're talking about, head to your local high school football game

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- Yes, can't recommend it enough.

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And continuing our conversations in community and about community,

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today we get to do an interview.

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I'm excited about it.

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And this one was someone from your life, Sarah.

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So I was wondering if you could maybe introduce who our guest is

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and how you got to know her through the youth group at our church.

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- Yes, I would absolutely love to.

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It would be my pleasure.

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Today, we are interviewing Miss Lucely Tapia, who was one of the girls in my high school

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youth group back in 2022, I think.

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That's when I met her.

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And speaking of culture that creates community, our church, we had to completely revamp our

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non-existent youth program post-pandemic.

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Yeah, it got kind of squashed in the pandemic.

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It was a mess.

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There was intentionality, there was a lot of prayer, there was a lot of effort, and it

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happened.

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So the first year, the start was a little rocky, but boy, it really has grown into an

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amazing program.

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If you want more details about that, you can even just listen to our interview we did with

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Sarah Boninu, one of our youth pastors last season.

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The culture at the time was really one of acceptance and openness as leaders we were

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encouraged to make connections and be vulnerable and be praying with our students and talk about

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the hard stuff that this wasn't just going to be to get together and play kickball,

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this was going to be to get together and bear our souls so to speak while studying the gospel.

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And I was amazed at how quickly our group of 11th and 12th grade girls formed a bond.

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Lucely and I have stayed very close since that time.

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And I've remained in contact with some other young ladies as well.

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And I think about them still, pray for them.

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We had another co-leader and she also has stayed in contact with some of the girls.

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Why did I think about Lucely for this interview?

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Well, I think about her a lot. She's close to my heart. But that relationship was born out of

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a culture that was deliberately conceived of and shaped by the Word of God. And our relationship

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and the community that's come out of that, you know, with these other girls and just the relationship

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she has with our family now is a testament to the culture that was there. So I couldn't think of a

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more perfect person to talk to about this. And I'm so humbled that she has agreed to

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be interviewed. I'm very excited to hear what she has to say to get a younger generation's

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perspective on these things that we like to talk about and to hear what that culture meant to her

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and how she absorbed in and engaged with it. Because as you said, y'all are still very close.

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this relationship has lasted years.

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And there's, I'm sure, lots of good wisdom and truth

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we can pull from that.

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So let's get to it.

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- Without further ado, here is Miss Lucely Tapia.

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- Hello.

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- Welcome, Lucely.

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- Hi. - Thank you for having me.

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I'm so happy to be here.

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- We are very happy to have you here.

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It might be a contest of who is happier.

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Us or you?

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We're all happy, though.

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So that's a good place to start.

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Yes, it is.

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Well, are you ready to jump right in to a little conversation?

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I'm ready.

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Let's do it.

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Okay.

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I have some questions for both of you.

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So I want you each to answer this.

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Do you remember the first time the two of you met and what was

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your first impression of the other?

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Go ahead, Lucely.

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Yeah, you go first. Okay, perfect. Yeah, I want to hear what you have to say

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Okay, no

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Yes, I very much do remember the time that Sarah and I met it was the first time I went to WDS

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it was around the fall of my senior year and

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I remember going and I was a little bit scared because I didn't know too many people with the youth group and I felt like a little bit

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Intimidating and like I feel like sometimes when you start going to a new group

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It can be a little bit awkward.

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Just like you're getting to know everybody.

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Don't know what to talk about.

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But when like the fun game time was over

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and it was time for the study,

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I got to meet the two leaders, which is Alice and then Sarah.

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And I don't know, I feel like with people,

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there's usually like an awkward moment.

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But with Sarah, like Sarah and I just clicked.

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And I don't know what it was, but I just remember this.

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Warm, there was just like instant connection.

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just like sometimes you meet people and you know that you can like instantly

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trust them or they just like Sarah just had like this warmth about her and it

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was like oh like I remember like the feeling of like just comfort and warmth

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and this is someone that the Lord is gonna put into my life and that's just

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instantly like what I felt about Sarah I was like this is somebody that I'm

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going to trust and I just remember asking her I was like hey I know not like an

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active member of Willowdale, but like, can I still come next week?

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And I just remember her being like, yes, so genuinely excited to have me come back

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next week.

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And yeah, that was like our first encounter.

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That's awesome.

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Okay, Sarah, let's hear your side of it.

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Well, I had been impressed by just her comments in the discussion because this

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conversation took place like at the end of our time.

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And I had been impressed by her comments in the discussion.

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And I was like, okay, she's got some depth here.

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And then when she asked me, oh, well, you know,

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can I come back?

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I was just like, yes.

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And I felt, I mean, it's hard sometimes

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to look back at that moment, knowing what I know now

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and what our relationship is now.

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It's kind of hard to look back,

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but there was definitely a connection.

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I would agree with that.

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But I felt very strongly that she needed to come back.

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And just the fact that she asked,

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either she was being super respectful, which was great,

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but she also was looking for a place where she could belong.

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And I knew that that was with us and ultimately with me.

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- Luseli, maybe you could talk a little bit

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about what was your understanding

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or experience with Christian community

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before coming to WDS?

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And then what kept you coming back there?

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- Yeah, so I'm a member of a small church

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in Wilmington, Delaware.

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And I think it was a great foundation

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of what community is.

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I think instantly when I started attending worship service

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there, they're very grounded in community.

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Yes, it's very important.

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And I'm a member of a community group

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whenever I'm home, right now I'm at school.

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but I think I've always recognized the importance of it.

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And I just think the more that I plugged into the community

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and the more I got to know the families

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in my community group,

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the more I realized like, wow, this is like really vital.

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Like the Lord emphasizes that community

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is such an important part of just like a spiritual formation

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and just having a good relationship with the Lord.

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It's not just having a relationship with the Lord himself,

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but also having a good vital relationship

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with the Lord's people as well.

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But I just think it took months

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of truly committing to attending community groups

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and not just like,

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I think it's very easy to quickly dust something off,

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like, oh, I wanna do this instead of like,

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go in a community group.

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'Cause sometimes I think it can feel like,

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oh, it's just dinner and a conversation.

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But I think as the months have gone by,

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you really realize like, wow,

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these people are a part of my life.

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They are helping me in my relationship with the Lord.

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I can pray for them.

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I can be here for them.

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It generally like brings care.

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So I think with WDS, it was also interesting

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just because my community group is filled

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with a lot of families, a lot of older adults,

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really small, young children.

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So to finally be in like an environment with people my age,

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it was different, but also really like motivating

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like yes, Gen Z is on fire for the Lord.

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Like people are also had the same motivations

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me to commit their lives to the Lord.

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And I think that was really like inspiring and awesome to see, which was like different.

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I love the description of those two different communities that you've gotten

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to experience because there's value in both.

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Yes.

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And Sarah, question for you.

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What would you say were the values of the culture at WDS and maybe

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elsewhere in your life that enabled you to build this relationship with Lucely that

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went beyond WDS. It's been years now. So what did that culture look like and what was your

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kind of understanding of Christian community that led to your relationship?

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I've spoken about this and maybe you've written about it too. When I was a young girl growing up

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in church, I had women that poured into me through youth group and Sunday school.

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I can remember one time the pastor's wife sat a bunch of us down and had us write

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these letters to ourselves in so many years or something like that. And she faithfully mailed

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those out 10 years later. And that impression, also I had like some older friends that were

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were Christians that just really mentored me.

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And those impressions and the way that they consistently

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stuck by me like through all the years,

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really made a mark on my life for good.

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And I wanted to be able to do the same thing.

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So that environment at WDS, as I mentioned,

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we were encouraged to pursue relationship,

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but also because people had poured into me so much in my life,

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I knew that there was such value in it.

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And I also had been poured into by older women in our church

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and just again, at that time knew how much it meant to me.

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So, gosh, I don't know if I can do this,

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but here's this girl.

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I mean, there were all the girls in our group, really,

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that I just loved dearly.

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But in this particular case,

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It just worked out that there was room there.

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You know, there was room both mentally,

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I think spiritually, I had set the intention.

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Actually, thinking back years prior to this,

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our church did a study and a luncheon.

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And I remember it was all focused on discipling women.

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And there was a book, I'll have to put it in the show notes

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'cause I don't remember the author's name,

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but there was a book we read.

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was called the gentle art of discipling women, which I thought was kind of a funny title.

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So it caused me to pick it up.

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But it is gentle.

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It happens gradually, I think.

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You don't always realize it.

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So maybe that was a long-winded answer, but.

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No, I'm picking up on something Lucely said and something you said, Sarah, that it takes

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time and it takes depth of relationship for these things to really make an impact.

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There's a lot of things that we look for instant gratification right now in our culture and our

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day-to-day life and y'all are both a testimony to the fact that actually the long haul

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is how we're kind of designed to operate and that's where you can really build these beautiful

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relationships. So, Lucely, what would you say your relationship with Sarah looks like now?

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How would you describe what your relationship is?

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Well, when I was first thinking about Sarah and I's relationship, I thought it was really funny

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because sometimes whenever we go out for coffee or if we go out to a restaurant, I think everybody

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always assumes the dynamic that we're like mom and daughter or it's when I go out with the flowers,

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they just like think that like I'm part of the pack and it's funny because sometimes people are like

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who is that and I'm like uh that's Sarah what do you mean? I don't know my relationship with Sarah

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just feels so natural to me it's like a friendship but it's a mentorship but it's also beyond a friendship

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and it's just a relationship that I've felt that I've could pour into it emotionally that I can

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physically put time into and it's something that's never spending time with Sarah is never something

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that's draining to me as some relationships sometimes can be it's just like some people take a lot and

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being with Sarah that's I've never felt that way I've always felt that I can be myself and no matter

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what kind of capacity I'm in sometimes she's seen me at my high stress nursing school level

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stressors but she's also seen me in my summer mode so I think my relationship

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with Sarah is beautiful and that I can be myself in any capacity and having

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someone like Sarah to listen to me and try to understand my struggles has been

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such a heartfelt thing in my life. I don't know if Sarah like completely

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understands how genuinely thankful I am to have someone like her in my life. All

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amazing people to be around and truly like their kindness inspires me and it

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motivates me to like be able to do the same for someone in my future and

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whatever the Lord brings me in my future if I'm leading a youth group like Sara

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or just people in my community in the future. Seeing how Sara has poured so

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much time into me and loving me it's just really inspiring and our

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Our relationship is really special

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and I'm very appreciative for it.

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- That was so beautiful.

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Sarah, are you crying yet?

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(laughing)

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- There's no crying on the podcast.

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No, actually we can cry.

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There's no crying in the car business,

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but we're not in the car business anymore.

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We're on the podcast.

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- No, that was so genuine though, Lucely.

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And I think that that does speak to the beauty

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of when things work the way God designed them to.

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Sarah, how would you say this relationship with Lucelyi has changed you or helped you?

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Wow.

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So I am a caretaker.

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I enjoy taking care of people, but in a way that helps them more truly become who they are.

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I'm a recovering codependent.

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Hey, yep, that's me.

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And I have worked hard to not be overly helpful or enabling

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or doing too much for people or whatever.

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But I do enjoy taking care of people, thinking about them,

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providing things, gifts or just even sending them a text

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and just being encouraging.

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I think that's being an encourager

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is one of my spiritual gifts.

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It's been, I guess, a few years now

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that I've known this darling girl.

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And our relationship, it has changed and grown over the years.

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I mean, in the very beginning, she was a senior in high school.

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There were some very specific things that she needed.

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And our relationship was what it was at that time.

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And it was great.

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But since then, like I've kind of taken her under my wing.

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And Christmas time, yep, you get a stocking.

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You're part of the family.

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I mean, it's like, you've said, how do you describe our relationship?

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And I think I've struggled with that too.

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It's kind of hard to describe.

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Like, do I feel motherly feelings towards you?

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Well, of course you're a kid in college

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and you need a care package and so here you go.

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But at the same time, I get so much from you.

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You are a maturing mature sister in Christ

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that I know that I can talk to

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about the things that I'm struggling with.

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And you point things out to me that I may not have seen.

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And your perspective is different in some ways in mind.

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I mean, generationally, but also just in other ways.

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And also having someone that's in Gen Z

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that I can call up and say, okay, what does this mean?

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Because the kids on my team are saying this or whatever.

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Like, it's very good to have like a little bit

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of an insider track.

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So I feel like I'm getting off track

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from your main question, but I think that what she described

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accurate is definitely like a mentor mentee, a discipleship, Christian sister, some familial

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feelings there. I mean, it's, it's, it's kind of hard to define, but it means a lot to me.

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And I get very excited when I know we're going to spend time together because I keep going,

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wow, I can't believe she still wants to hang out with me. Doesn't she have better things to do?

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She's, she's young. It's flattering. Thank you. Thank you for loving me.

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I love you.

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No.

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Okay.

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No tears.

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No tears.

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I mean, tears are allowed.

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Happy tears.

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So, Lucille, you hinted at something earlier that I kind of want to go back to.

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You mentioned that as you go forward in your life and you take on different roles within

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the body of Christ, whatever that might look like, that you're kind of taking this relationship

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with Sarah forward into how you might serve in the church, which I think is the whole

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point. That's the whole point is that when we are discipled, we can then disciple others.

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Would you say that your understanding of community is different now than it was before this relationship

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with Sarah started or to maybe change the question a little bit.

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What do you want to see in terms of Christian community in your life moving forward?

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I think my understanding of Christian community has definitely, I don't think it's changed,

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but I think it's developed in its importance in my life, which I think I touched in a little bit.

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Yeah.

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I know it's a huge priority, whether I'm at home.

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So it's my Pennsylvania, well, Eastern Pennsylvania Delaware crew or whether it's here where I live

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at school, I think it's just, just definitely become more vital right now as a nursing student.

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How it like impacts my life right now is that because of relationships like this,

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I'm a mentor, for example, for freshmen. So while it's not specifically like Christian

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community because I know I have developed deep connection and relationships with people.

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I know what it takes emotionally and physically to put effort to port into people even though

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they don't specifically know like, "Oh, I'm doing this to show you the Lord's love. I'm showing you

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this to make you feel supported so that you have somebody as a freshman." That's just an example

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of how community is so important. Mentoring freshmen is just vital because sometimes they're

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like, "Lost and it's just, well, I don't know how to do." So just like being able to pour into other

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people is something that I think I've learned because I have these relationships in my life

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at home with Sarah or if it's my other young adult group at my church or something like that.

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Or just overall as a future nurse or as a nursing student right now, like I look at my patients and

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I make sure to build that rapport with them. Like the relationship of nurse to patient is so vital

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important and it brings like the whole community aspect. I'm not just there to like help you feel better like

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physically but also to let you know that you're supported that you have your community here or wherever I go to like in the future for

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clinical and stuff like that people will need to also know that they have their community there. So I think just the importance

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of it has been like

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just building more and more into depth as the years have gone by so I think that's important.

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I don't know. I think I went kind of off track there a little bit, but just like the vitalness of it.

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Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head. It's when you understand it

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at a spiritual level, the ripple effects are that it impacts everything you're doing.

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Sarah, do you have any other thoughts on kind of that concept of this generational discipleship

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that you wanted to share?

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Besides the fact that I'm very proud of her.

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It's exactly it. I talked about women that discipled me and I am now in turn discipling others.

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And Lucely also has a great point. We don't need to just keep that in the family of believers.

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Of course, that is something that we need to look to first, but some of the other

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interactions I have are with non-believers. It doesn't mean that I can't pour into them.

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and exercising this discipleship muscle of being discipled or mentored and then in turn

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discipling others or mentoring others. It is biblical. It helps spiritual formation,

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just as Lucely said, but I think that it is also a model for a thriving civilization. Down through

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the history, we have apprentice ships. People learned from their elders, not necessarily

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their own parents, but through other people. And so I think the more that we do it,

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the more that others learn how to do it, and then so on and so forth. And I think it's a good way

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to help people become who they're supposed to be and also better mental health for everyone

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involved, frankly. That's something that we are struggling with post-pandemic, maybe always were,

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but it's definitely come to light post pandemic and having someone you know that cares about you

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or even someone that you're caring for gives you purpose and we need purpose.

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Yeah, we've talked a number of times on this podcast about how do we build community. We just

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in our previous episode talked about how do we foster a culture that supports this idea of community

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But Lucely, we are older than you are.

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So I want to hear how does your generation build community?

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What does it look like for you as a Gen Z-er?

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That we need to learn from?

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What's going on out there in the world that's really helped us?

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Well, I think a lot of the time, the issue, including for myself,

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I'm not saying it's just other people, including myself is like

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people really struggle to get out of their comfort zones.

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I think especially now, I think you guys mentioned COVID.

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Like, I think COVID did a number on people's like just social interactions

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and how they're able to like interact with one another.

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And I ran a Bible study for a year here.

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I was a leader at a Bible study that we called the Pulse.

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And when we started the Pulse, we noticed that

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people really just want to feel included and want to feel seen and like who I mean yeah

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who doesn't so it was like our job to make sure that like it could be like 30 people in a really

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small tight living room but we wanted people to feel that they were welcome like yes come in hello

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we are so happy to see you we wanted people to know that we're happy to see them we want to see

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sometimes people have a little bit of trouble participating in like

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activities or if it's in Bible study like answering a question but like

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making sure that people are aware of the fact that they're like oh no I see you and I want to hear

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from you just making sure that everybody feels included especially just because including myself

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again it's really hard for me to step out of my comfort zone whether it's showing up to a new

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event or like somewhere I haven't been before just making people's like you see them like you

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that they're here, like thank you for coming, thank you for taking your time out of your day.

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So I think it just takes investing in people nowadays. People just really want to be a part

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of something, which is something I've also realized in college, like people just want to be included,

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they want friends, they want people to be in community with, even again, like if it's not

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like a biblical community, I think everybody, Christian, non-Christian, like just craves that

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that community no matter what it's in.

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- It's almost like people are the same

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as they were 2,000 years ago.

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I'm glad to know we're not that far off of reality, Sarah.

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People do, we wanna be known, we wanna be included,

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we wanna be seen.

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That stuff never changes, I guess, huh?

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- I was thinking of a quote that we had

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in our last episode, the first episode of the season.

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And we've talked about this before,

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but I think I said something like,

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your presence in the room makes a difference.

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And it truly does on a cellular level.

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And I'm sure that Lucely could explain this to us

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much better than I can try to.

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But our energy, our cellular energy,

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affects our surroundings.

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And we can be in a room and have a positive effect

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or a negative effect.

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You guys know what it's like when somebody's in a bad mood.

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You can tell us as soon as you walk in the door.

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(laughs)

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But that's exactly what you're talking about, Lucely

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is people want to be included.

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They want to be a part of something that's important.

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- Well, do y'all have any final thoughts

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on how we can foster this culture of, you know,

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generational discipleship community,

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just in general Christian community,

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any final closing thoughts,

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drop some wisdom on us, Lucely, no pressure.

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- Specifically just for like fostering the culture,

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I think people just want to feel like they fit in.

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and sometimes that can be hard.

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Because well, especially where I go to school,

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being a Christian is not the majority.

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It can very much sometimes be the minority

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and going to a school that's relatively,

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like a party school that can be sometimes challenging

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just because people are very used to like,

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oh, I wanna fit in, so I'm gonna go party

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instead of doing this because I want to fit in.

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I don't want people to think that I'm different

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or strange, but also like I think, again,

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investing in people, people are a lot more curious

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than like sometimes people think.

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I have some non-Christian friends

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and like when I invite them to Bible study,

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sometimes they are interested and I'm like, wait, really?

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Like you actually like want to come.

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So I think investing in people

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were just like not like pushing so deeply on them.

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Like, oh no, you need to come.

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But like showing support and showing like,

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Hey, no, like this is actually something

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that's very life giving and is life giving.

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And when something's important to you,

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the people around you will notice.

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They notice things, it's like,

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"Hey, this is something different and I'm curious.

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I want to know what they feel."

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Encouraging people, investing in them,

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and just by like your fruits, people can tell

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and are curious and want to join in

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in whatever makes you who you are.

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So if you're showing the good fruits of spirit,

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like people are invested in that,

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whether they know the Lord or not,

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and it does bring them in,

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and it does make you want to dwell

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with people that are the same.

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- Sarah, I can totally see why you wanted

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to keep being friends with Lucely.

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- She's awesome.

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- I have a thought.

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Maybe it's about inviting people

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to step outside their comfort zone.

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always.

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Any other final thoughts from you, Sarah, on

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bolstering this culture?

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Be welcoming, be winsome, be open to connections.

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Keep inviting people.

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I like that.

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We sometimes think people don't want to be included, but

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that's us deciding for them.

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Just keep inviting people.

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I like also what you said earlier, Lucely,

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about stepping outside your comfort zone.

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It's not always easy to do.

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I shared in the prologue to this interview

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that I was nervous.

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I wasn't sure if the girls would even want to hang out with me.

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I was not very popular in high school,

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so I was a little worried about that,

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but had a good group of girls.

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- Thanks so much.

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(laughing)

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- Oh, thank you.

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- This has been so fun, Lucely.

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Thanks for taking time to do this.

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We really appreciate your insight and perspective

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and just sharing some of your story.

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- Of course, thank you guys so much for having me.

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- Oh, you're so welcome.

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It has been a joy.

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- Thank you so much, Lucely, for joining us today.

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- Thank you.

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- All right, we'll talk to you soon.

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