00.000000 8.000000 Well, hello there, Mary Beth. Hello, Sarah. It is good to be with you on the Trustworthy podcast,
8.000000 15.040000 yet again, back at the beginning. That's right. We came back to revisit our first episode,
15.040000 18.960000 because we've been doing this for a little while now, and some things have changed.
18.960000 24.080000 Yeah, we've changed some of our format. In fact, we've done a lot more interviews,
24.080000 29.520000 and we've also upgraded our equipment. We're not recording on your cell phone anymore.
30.080000 32.960000 No, although that was a good place to start. We got to start somewhere.
32.960000 36.640000 That's right. Nothing wrong with it. We just don't do it that way anymore,
36.640000 42.560000 so you might notice a difference in this episode compared to some later ones. Yes,
42.560000 48.640000 brings to mind the verse, and I think it's Zachariah when they're rebuilding the temple.
48.640000 52.320000 Do not despise these small beginnings. You'll never know what'll come out of it.
52.320000 59.360000 We certainly hope that you enjoy our very first episode, our pilot, that we recorded on a cell phone.
60.160000 64.800000 And now, because the battery and the DeLorean is fully charged,
64.800000 73.360000 time travel back to when we actually did record this, and it's missing all the things we've learned since then.
73.360000 78.480000 So if you like this first pilot episode, you might like some other ones even more.
78.480000 82.480000 Yeah, feel free to visit our website at TrustworthyPodcast.com,
82.480000 87.440000 where you can find a list of all the episodes that we've recorded, as well as transcripts and show notes.
88.480000 89.360000 Thanks for listening.
89.360000 97.600000 Is God Trustworthy? Hi, I'm Sarah, and I'm Mary Beth.
97.600000 102.960000 Join us as we seek to answer this question through whole-hearted conversation.
102.960000 109.280000 Discover the wit and wisdom that comes from being anchored in Christ and connected to one another.
109.280000 117.440000 This is Trustworthy.
118.400000 126.400000 [Music]
126.400000 127.360000 Hi there.
127.360000 128.560000 Hello, Sarah.
128.560000 129.280000 Hi, Mary Beth.
129.280000 133.120000 I guess it would be helpful if we said each other's names in our greeting.
133.120000 135.280000 It's always good to make an introduction.
135.280000 135.920000 Yes.
135.920000 137.280000 Hi, I'm Sarah.
137.280000 139.200000 Hi, I'm Mary Beth.
139.200000 141.040000 Hi, welcome to Trustworthy.
141.040000 141.760000 There you go.
141.760000 146.800000 Podcasts, where we talk about how we know that God is trustworthy.
146.800000 157.680000 Well, we've had one brief screen test before this, just to get our feet wet, so to speak,
157.680000 160.400000 and to see what we sound like.
160.400000 163.120000 That was interesting.
163.120000 164.960000 You sounded so lovely.
164.960000 166.720000 As did you, my dear?
166.720000 173.920000 Well, I thank you so much. I think we sounded airy-dite, sophisticated, and exceedingly beautiful.
173.920000 179.680000 For those of you who don't know what we look like, because I'm sure there are millions of people
179.680000 186.320000 listening who don't know how to Google search our pictures. Just imagine the most beautiful
186.320000 189.680000 women you could ever picture, and that's us.
189.680000 190.720000 Yeah, exactly.
193.680000 197.200000 Whatever that looks like for you, that school will be for you.
197.200000 198.000000 Think about that.
198.000000 203.120000 And we're so humble.
203.120000 210.560000 Well, my favorite definition of humility is agreeing with God about who you are.
210.560000 217.440000 Sometimes we are prideful by putting ourselves down.
217.440000 218.320000 Yeah.
218.320000 220.720000 Which seems weird.
220.720000 226.960000 Well, it's a form of self-righteousness. It's like the flip side of self-righteousness.
226.960000 227.920000 Oh, yes.
227.920000 234.640000 That if we are not finding our worth and our value and who God has made us to be and who Christ says we are,
234.640000 239.520000 we are putting value in what we think we should be.
239.520000 243.760000 What we think we should look like, or fill in the blank.
243.760000 244.240000 Yeah.
244.240000 250.080000 And by doing that, it actually is putting us in this position of self-righteousness,
250.080000 251.760000 even if we are putting ourselves down.
251.760000 256.720000 If we're not living up to that standard that we have created in our own minds,
256.720000 259.680000 it is not Christ's righteousness on which we are really.
259.680000 270.320000 I was just thinking while you were talking about that, that when we don't agree with God about
270.320000 274.000000 who we are, we set ourselves up to be a little God.
274.000000 278.720000 And we are not trusting Him for our very best.
279.200000 280.880000 That's right.
280.880000 282.960000 There's a Bonhoeffer.
282.960000 286.240000 You heard Bonhoeffer's book Ethics?
286.240000 287.600000 I have not.
287.600000 289.760000 I have not read the whole thing because it's heavy,
289.760000 291.840000 but we'll put a link to that for your show notes.
291.840000 292.400000 That's right.
292.400000 295.680000 So for those of you who don't know who Dietrich Bonhoeffer was,
295.680000 301.200000 the short version is he was a German who ran an underground church during World War II
301.200000 306.560000 and was part of a plaque to take out Hitler and ended up being murdered himself in,
307.120000 309.920000 I believe in a concentration camp or some kind of prison.
309.920000 311.120000 I'm not exactly showing those details.
311.120000 319.360000 Anyway, he wrote a book called Ethics and in the first couple of pages, he says something to the
319.360000 325.920000 effect of in wanting to become like God, we become a God ourselves.
325.920000 335.920000 And so when we put ourselves in our own desire for knowledge and control and power above knowing
335.920000 340.960000 God himself, we make ourselves a little G God that we are worshipping ourselves.
340.960000 355.360000 Anything that we spend time thinking about working for diverting resources too
355.360000 357.680000 is an object of worship.
357.680000 364.720000 And there are many things that we can worship and you could use a lower case if you want to.
365.440000 371.760000 But when any one of those things becomes the primary object of our worship,
371.760000 375.680000 we do not have a right relationship with God.
375.680000 380.960000 And things get all sorts of messed up.
380.960000 383.920000 And this is essentially the root of sin.
383.920000 392.640000 I mean, this was how we're tempted by our enemy when we upend God's place in our life
392.640000 394.160000 in relation to these other things.
394.320000 400.160000 Well, and then that brings back this concept of trust worthy,
400.160000 402.080000 which we have thought about for this podcast.
402.080000 411.760000 So what is the trust worthy person or thing or idea that we either are clean to or should be
411.760000 417.200000 clean to for both of us, the answer I believe would be the same as our Savior.
417.200000 418.080000 Yes, yes.
418.080000 422.400000 But couched with that is also the reality that all truth is God's truth.
422.400000 428.320000 Yes. And so there are trust worthy things that are not
428.320000 430.880000 contrary or outside of him.
430.880000 434.800000 But you know, we could say like I trust my husband.
434.800000 436.480000 He's a trustworthy spouse.
436.480000 440.240000 I trust my phone to charge when I plug it into the charger.
440.240000 440.720000 Right.
440.720000 444.880000 I trust that the law of gravity will be in place when I wake up tomorrow morning.
444.880000 450.880000 But what are those things that we are viewing as trustworthy in our lives that may not actually be so?
450.880000 452.480000 Yeah, like my own heart.
452.480000 456.480000 Heart is deceitful above all else.
456.480000 463.760000 I think that it is very true that people are not trustworthy as compared to God.
463.760000 474.400000 In fact, we can all recall a time when our hearts were broken by another person.
475.760000 483.280000 I have to say, though, and all the experiences that I've had, my heart has never been broken by God.
483.280000 487.360000 Now, I've been disappointed.
487.360000 492.960000 My heart has been broken by circumstances that have happened that he's allowed to happen in my life.
492.960000 494.960000 I have screamed at him.
494.960000 497.600000 I have become angry.
497.600000 498.480000 I have cried.
498.480000 502.400000 But God has never broken my heart.
502.400000 503.680000 He's never let me down.
504.880000 509.200000 So I guess I would have to say that he's pretty darn trustworthy.
509.200000 515.600000 Yeah, well, and I think the fact that we can scream and yell at him and know that it doesn't mean
515.600000 520.480000 he's going to try to stop loving us because we're never going to stop.
520.480000 528.560000 Protected from the wrath of God through what Christ has done for us, it doesn't mean we disrespect him,
528.560000 534.240000 but it means we know he can handle our disappointment, our frustration, our anger, all of that,
534.240000 535.920000 because he is trustworthy.
535.920000 542.480000 He is, he is unchanging, at least the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.
542.480000 548.160000 Can't say that about many, much other things, anything else.
548.160000 549.520000 Anyone else.
549.520000 552.400000 Yeah, I don't know who I'm going to be when I wake up tomorrow, you know?
552.400000 553.440000 Yeah, exactly.
553.440000 555.120000 What kind of mood I'm going to be in?
555.120000 562.160000 It just depends on what things are going on in my body and my head and the environment around me.
562.160000 567.760000 You know, I was thinking about this concept about how feelings are not truth.
567.760000 570.880000 Feelings are a weather station.
570.880000 576.960000 They're a barometer to let us know the temperature changes in the atmosphere around us,
576.960000 577.920000 right?
577.920000 584.960000 They are thermometer to let us know the temperature changes going on inside our own bodies,
584.960000 590.080000 whether it be physical, mental, whatever, our reaction to bad night of sleep, whatever.
590.960000 592.160000 And I'm sure there's some other ones.
592.160000 593.520000 I think hygrometer or something.
593.520000 594.720000 Doesn't that measure something?
594.720000 595.280000 I have no idea about that.
595.280000 595.760000 I don't know.
595.760000 596.800000 We need, okay, yes.
596.800000 602.800000 We need all you boaters out there to weather, if it's the end of us to tell us, but I just,
602.800000 605.840000 I like to draw connections between things.
605.840000 611.680000 That's one of my competencies on the strength finder test is on the connector.
611.680000 614.720000 So I like to make little connections.
614.720000 619.600000 So just thought about how our feelings are really more in indicator and not actual truth.
620.320000 625.040000 I think that we so often get tricked, especially in today's world,
625.040000 634.720000 into believing, putting a lot of misplaced faith, and then acting on our feelings.
634.720000 638.960000 And then using those feelings to justify our actions.
638.960000 643.760000 That's a real big one on social media, can we get, oh, I'd love to give you an example.
643.760000 644.720000 I can think of many.
644.720000 652.640000 So for example, let's say I'm feeling betrayed hurt by someone.
652.640000 660.480000 I'm feeling that they rejected me, that they have turned their back on me, that they have hurt me
660.480000 661.120000 deeply.
661.120000 664.640000 And so I go into my head alone, which is never a good thing.
664.640000 669.120000 And I come up with all these reasons why this rejection and hurt has happened.
669.120000 672.720000 And I decide that I'm going to cut them out of my life.
673.280000 676.960000 I'm going to cancel them, I'm going to ghost them, I'm going to unfriend them, whatever.
676.960000 679.840000 And so I do that.
679.840000 688.080000 But maybe this person was going through a difficult time.
688.080000 694.000000 Maybe this person had just gotten the worst news that they'd ever gotten in their life.
694.000000 700.800000 And that the last interaction I had with them is not a good indication of who they are as a person.
701.920000 707.680000 But I didn't make this about them, I made it about me and my feelings.
707.680000 715.760000 Because again, I'm setting myself up as a lowercase GOD and putting myself above everyone around me.
715.760000 719.120000 So I go off and decide that that's the way it is.
719.120000 723.600000 And the relationship could potentially be lost.
723.600000 725.920000 I have isolated myself from someone else.
726.800000 735.040000 And now can go out, maybe post on my Facebook page or wherever, that I'm justified in my actions.
735.040000 740.800000 This person acted this way and made me feel and therefore I'm justified in my actions.
740.800000 747.040000 And there will be a lot of people, a lot of people, especially in the culture today,
747.040000 752.400000 that would agree and give kudos or that's right.
752.400000 755.680000 You live your truth, just do what feels good.
756.480000 758.960000 But at the end of the day I'm left alone.
758.960000 763.200000 And maybe I shouldn't have relied on my feelings.
763.200000 768.640000 Maybe I should have asked some questions or given the person the benefit of the doubt.
768.640000 771.760000 Yeah, this actually reminds me.
771.760000 777.120000 We have a couple of blogs from the Willadelle women's blog that touch on some of the things
777.120000 784.880000 you've been saying, one of them to be self-aggrandizing, I myself wrote during the pandemic
784.880000 792.240000 about how I misheard some song lyrics and was very stubbornly convinced that I knew what the right
792.240000 798.960000 words were. Because it's how I heard it. And, you know, come to find out, I was wrong.
798.960000 804.720000 Because I was just listening to my own thoughts, basing it on what I felt was right.
804.720000 809.760000 I didn't want to hear anyone else's opinions on the matter because I had checked it out.
809.760000 814.240000 I had drawn my own conclusions and I was right. But I was not right.
814.240000 820.320000 So it reminded me of that blog post very similarly. And I think that there have been a couple
820.320000 828.880000 of other ones about just our, you know, need for other people and what, how to kind of repair
828.880000 834.480000 relationships when needed. So there's a plug for our Willadelle women.
835.120000 838.800000 Blog, we have, I don't even know how many writers right now,
838.800000 845.680000 a eight or 10 maybe different women. And that's, that's just our current, our current stuff,
845.680000 850.400000 like before, that we've had at least eight or 10 others that have written to guest writers.
850.400000 856.560000 Well, this actually is an excellent segue. I have a question for you, Mary Beth.
856.560000 864.240000 I'm, oh, you're excellent. I'm wondering if you could tell me about the last time that you're
864.240000 873.600000 heart broke for another person. Sarah, that's a great question. And one that I do not experience very
873.600000 882.000000 often because I am not super empathetic and sympathetic, I would say becoming a mother
882.000000 888.000000 completely changed that in me that that I was like, Oh, I do have the capacity for this.
888.640000 895.360000 It is there somewhere. Yeah, becoming a parent will completely change your perception of who you are.
895.360000 899.440000 It'll make you realize just how inadequate you actually are. Yes.
899.440000 906.080000 And I think that especially because my boys are so young, their hurts and their losses and their
906.080000 917.440000 failures are obvious and easy to spot. And thankfully, so far, easy to mend and help them along, right?
917.440000 922.880000 So I think that would be my first, that's what first comes to mind is if one of my children
922.880000 929.120000 tries something and doesn't succeed and gets really frustrated and starts, you know, talking
929.120000 934.960000 negatively about themselves and how they can't do it or whatever their language might be about
934.960000 942.160000 themselves and kind of stepping into that as a mom and just affirming the truths of who God made
942.160000 949.440000 them to be who God says they are because you love this little child more than almost anyone else in
949.440000 956.640000 the world and you see their potential and they don't see it and you know, you see the good in them
956.640000 959.840000 and they are only seeing the negative in the moment. So I think those are the times where
959.840000 965.680000 your heart kind of breaks for like, you don't see the big picture, you know, I want you to,
965.680000 970.800000 I don't want you to be stuck in this moment of failure, but to look past it.
970.960000 974.480000 What about you? Do you want to answer that question?
974.480000 980.240000 I want to answer that question. When is the last time that your heart broke for another person?
980.240000 995.680000 Well, there's degrees. So I guess I got news of a young woman, college age,
997.200000 1001.600000 who was struggling with anxiety, depression and suicidal.
1001.600000 1011.120000 Now, I was a college student of an age that struggled with anxiety and depression.
1011.120000 1021.840000 I certainly have some empathy and I have had a prayer.
1023.520000 1031.520000 It's a dangerous prayer. I'm just going to tell you, since 2016, I think
1031.520000 1038.640000 that God would break my heart for the things that break his. Then I have to tell you
1038.640000 1048.000000 that it has taken me into some places, conversations with people that were heavy.
1049.760000 1057.360000 But I believe that it's helped me understand more the heart of God.
1057.360000 1067.840000 And I believe that it has helped me be just a better friend, a better listener,
1067.840000 1072.160000 which I'm not very good at, my nature's life to practice.
1072.160000 1078.560000 I have had people to say to me, specifically women, because that's where I feel I'm called,
1079.200000 1086.080000 that they feel better, to know that they're not alone, that I've just helped to ease their burden.
1086.080000 1094.160000 That's to say, that when I just recently heard this news, I just spent some time in anguished prayer
1094.160000 1099.760000 for this young woman. Yeah, that's my answer. That's the last time my heart was broken for someone.
1099.760000 1108.800000 Well, and this is why, as I was mentioning earlier, it's so good for us as humans, honestly,
1108.800000 1114.880000 but especially as Christians, to have other people in our lives that are speaking into certain issues
1114.880000 1123.360000 that everyone is experiencing. My natural makeup is not to be highly empathetic and sympathetic.
1123.360000 1128.960000 I need people like Sarah in my life who are bent toward that to help point you back to, "Hey,
1128.960000 1135.680000 my Beth, maybe you should be thinking about these things." How could you be a little more empathetic
1135.680000 1140.960000 and sympathetic to the people in your life and in the world around you? I don't know what that would
1140.960000 1148.160000 mean for you on the on the contrast, perhaps, and correct me if I'm speculating. Perhaps it's
1148.160000 1155.600000 sometimes you need to process some of that and pull back from some of it to make sure you're not
1155.600000 1161.600000 getting bogged down and taking on the feelings of everyone else. It's good to be there and be supportive,
1161.600000 1168.960000 but you can also kind of go too far the other way, whereas I'm too far away from it. You might be too far
1168.960000 1173.840000 into it sometimes. Does that make sense? Yes. As a recovering codependent, there you go.
1173.840000 1181.200000 Which I'm not ashamed to admit, because I think it's the most under-talked about or what's
1181.200000 1184.640000 giving me the right word. How would you edit what I just said? It's a topic that's
1186.560000 1193.200000 not talked about enough. Yes, there we go. It's not talked about enough. I think, depending on
1193.200000 1201.280000 in different situations and times in our lives, there's the ab and flow in relationships. Especially
1201.280000 1207.200000 marriage and children, parent relationships, there's times when we need to be more present and more
1207.200000 1217.120000 invested and involved, but not the expense of losing ourselves. Yes, and I admire your matter of
1217.120000 1225.760000 factness. I admire your ability to state what the situation is and present a solution and just move
1225.760000 1234.960000 through it. As I mentioned earlier, feelings sometimes were my guiding MO. That was it. My feelings,
1234.960000 1242.320000 yes, I should do this because I feel this way. All right, you want a more lighthearted question?
1242.320000 1247.760000 Yes, one lighthearted question. All right, in the contrast of what you just asked me,
1247.760000 1254.400000 what is something in the recent past that has made you laugh so hard you, Fred?
1254.400000 1259.360000 Oh my goodness, something that made me laugh so hard I cried.
1261.280000 1265.680000 Okay, and I don't know if I cried, but this was hilarious and the three of us were laughing. So
1265.680000 1270.960000 the other morning, my husband and son came back from having breakfast together and my son ran
1270.960000 1276.800000 up with this huge stack of books and he's like, mom, mom, mom, dad told me something. You got to hear
1276.800000 1281.760000 this. You got to read the first line of the book and then you add this phrase after it. I'm like, what?
1281.760000 1286.800000 And he's like, yeah, yeah, mom, listen, so he got this book out and I'm just going to take a book
1286.800000 1292.480000 off of my shelf because this is absolutely hilarious. Mary, that's okay. All right, this is David Baldaki.
1292.480000 1298.320000 Wish you well. Excellent book, by the way. Okay, here we go. First line of the book,
1298.320000 1306.160000 the air was moist, the coming rain telegraphed by Plump Gray Clouds and the blue sky fast fading.
1306.160000 1314.000000 Then the dragons came. So then the dragons came. It's the addition. Then the dragons came.
1314.000000 1322.400000 It's the addition to any. I can think of a lot of good policy and politics books, but that would
1322.400000 1326.240000 be a hilarious addition. It would be a hilarious addition. I think, listen, if it was the best
1326.240000 1333.280000 of times, it was the worst of times. And then the dragon came. So we had a lot of fun with that.
1333.280000 1340.160000 In the beginning, God created that as an earth. And then the dragon came. Yeah, it's not too far off,
1340.160000 1346.480000 right? No, it certainly isn't. Yeah. Leviathan Behemoth. Okay, how about you?
1346.480000 1352.400000 Yeah, so this is a tricky part of asking these questions is I didn't think to prepare my own answer.
1352.400000 1360.720000 I would say, well, there's one that I don't want to share because I love boys and they're just
1360.720000 1365.680000 boy humor in our house as you probably are. Are you kidding me? Yes, that's okay.
1365.680000 1373.600000 Probably not great to share on a podcast. Probably not a different one. Oh, okay, this is a cultural snapshot
1373.600000 1382.320000 of my generation. I don't know if you ever watched the show Gossip Girl. No, okay. It was a CW show
1382.320000 1389.680000 in the, I guess, early 2000s or the offs as they call them like 2010s. And it's like Blake
1389.680000 1393.680000 lively and all these other. I've heard of it. Yeah. And I mean, there's not a whole lot great about
1393.680000 1399.920000 the show other than its entertainment value. But the whole premise of the show is it's these upper
1399.920000 1407.520000 east side kids in New York, private high school. And then there's this unknown figure called Gossip Girl
1407.520000 1414.160000 who runs this kind of rumor mill secret thing. And they don't know who Gossip Girl is and she sends out,
1414.160000 1419.760000 this is keep in mind the technology of the early 2000s. She would send out alerts on people's like
1419.760000 1425.600000 blackberries as a Gossip Girl here. And she would always have these clever quips of whatever was
1425.600000 1430.880000 going on of, you know, so and so was seen with so and so. Okay, so that was a long intro too.
1430.880000 1438.080000 We have neighbors who are also around our age and we have a group chat, the husband and wife and
1438.080000 1443.680000 myself and my husband. And we will send each other updates in the form of Gossip Girl.
1443.680000 1451.040000 Our banter in the Gossip Girl style was very entertaining to me and I laughed at all four of us
1451.040000 1455.840000 and was it was one of those where it was I'm so pleased with how funny we are, you know, it was like
1455.840000 1463.440000 very likely. I love our inside joke and so. Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes if other people are laughing too
1463.440000 1471.920000 then it probably was funny. Yeah. Okay, your challenge for this week is to pick a book off your
1471.920000 1477.280000 shelf, read the first line and add and then the dragons came.
1477.280000 1490.240000 Yeah. How did we get here? Should we start there?
1490.240000 1495.360000 Yeah. How did we get here? How did you how did you come to want to do a podcast?
1496.880000 1506.400000 I like to talk and just to be straightforward that's that's it. And I like to hear myself talk
1506.400000 1514.000000 when this really started was back during 2020. So I'd bring this all up again, right? Like a bad penny.
1514.000000 1522.320000 I had spent a lot of time alone with my family, but alone. And I just had this sense that there were
1522.320000 1531.760000 people out there that were hurting and lonely and missing things, whether it be hate toilet paper
1531.760000 1539.360000 or hanging out with their friends or trips to the movie theater. Everybody was very disconnected.
1539.360000 1544.880000 And I just kind of had this place on my heart that like, gosh, there are people out there that are
1544.880000 1551.040000 lonely and I don't like that. I want to be everybody's friend, which is a good and a bad thing.
1551.760000 1558.400000 So I actually started with there was a recording I did this idea I had about
1558.400000 1568.000000 just calmly encouraging and reassuring someone at the end of a day just to let them know that
1568.000000 1575.600000 they did their best was all gonna be okay. And just a way to sort of calm their heart and mind
1575.600000 1585.440000 before sleep. So that was sort of my first idea and then I just I've had a lot of ideas since then.
1585.440000 1591.920000 But mostly I wanted to make something that is conversation between friends and with other people
1591.920000 1598.160000 about things that can make life better for everybody. I like it. Yeah. Well, thanks for bringing
1598.160000 1605.840000 me into it. Well, yeah. I also think that doing this podcast with someone will keep me accountable.
1605.840000 1610.880000 Yeah. Well, I don't feel like any time you kind of delve into a topic that you care about,
1610.880000 1615.520000 other people's voices and weighing in are always going to show you things you didn't think of are
1615.520000 1621.040000 things that yes can help move the ball further down the field. I think that to your point about
1621.040000 1629.760000 the pandemic it's like if anything it reaffirmed or need for each other. So I'm with you. Yeah, we're
1629.760000 1638.240000 created for community. Yeah. God is three and one and each part of the Trinity speaks to the others
1638.240000 1644.400000 about who they are. And so just you and I sitting here on this couch right now are speaking to each
1644.400000 1651.760000 other about who we truly are. Yeah. And that's a beautiful thing. Yeah.
1651.760000 1667.760000 But when the set time had fully come, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born under the law,
1668.320000 1677.280000 to redeem those under the law that we might receive adoption to sonship. Because you are His sons,
1677.280000 1685.280000 God sent the spirit of His Son into our hearts, the spirit who calls out Baba, Father.
1685.280000 1695.040000 So you are no longer a slave, but God's child. And since you are His child, God has made you also an
1695.040000 1705.040000 air. Galatians 4 verses 4 through 7. Thank you for listening to this episode of Trustworthy.
1705.040000 1711.040000 Come back next week when Mary Beth and I talk about trusting God with our work.
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